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VAN PERNIS: Well,just,just let me say that Spring Development itself testified that it was going <br /> to be the developer. <br /> CARR SMITH: That's fine, because that's in our minutes. It's <br /> VAN PERNIS: And Mr. Vitousek brought up it was difficult to negotiate without knowing who the <br /> real developer was. <br /> CARR SMITH: All right, so we've got a motion on the table. Is this a roll call vote or—would staff <br /> or somebody help me? Corp. counsel, what kind of vote am I taking? <br /> YOSHIMOTO: Madam Chair, I would recommend a roll call vote. <br /> KAY: I'm prepared to do that, Madam Chair. <br /> CARR SMITH: Thank you, Christian. Go ahead. <br /> KAY: All right. Commissioner Vitousek? <br /> VITOUSEK: Aye. <br /> KAY: Commissioner Kealoha? <br /> KEALOHA: Aye. <br /> KAY: Commissioner Newberg? <br /> NEWBERG: Aye. <br /> KAY: Commissioner Van Pernis? <br /> VAN PERNIS: No. <br /> KAY: Commissioner Yates? <br /> YATES: Aye. <br /> KAY: And Chair Carr Smith? <br /> CARR SMITH: Aye. <br /> KAY: Thank you. Madam Chair, motion carries, five-one. <br /> CARR SMITH: Thank you. So, with some of the testimony stricken, are the Commissioners <br /> completely comfortable with Mr. Van Pernis being a part of this case going forward? Anybody have <br /> any objections, I guess I should say? <br /> 11 <br /> EXHIBIT C <br />