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YEE: Can I chime in, Nancy?
<br /> CARR SMITH: Yes, please, Director Yee, go ahead.
<br /> YEE: Michael Yee, Planning Director. So, I need to back up a little bit, so the Planning
<br /> Commission understands my approach. When I became planning director almost four years
<br /> ago there's always a myriad of issues and things that you can work onI probably stepped
<br /> into violations a little bit more so than maybe other previous directors, and into special cases.
<br /> This was clearly a case that had a long history. But if you get mired into all the past, it becomes
<br /> very difficult to see yourself out of the woods, right? And so,part of it in starting almost, almost
<br /> immediately when I became planning director, so in early part of 2017, I met with Christie Cash,
<br /> I went to the site to understand the site and to try to figure out what were the issues. I will tell
<br /> you, and it's my personal approach, that throwing a hammer of violations and fees to try to cure
<br /> problems is not always the most successful approach. We have thousands of violations on the
<br /> islands. And part of the goal one by one is to be able to work with the, with the property owner
<br /> on a violation to get them into compliance; that's clearly been my approach. If you get mired
<br /> into wanting the county to play enforcer, I'm not sure that gets us to better end results. And as I
<br /> said in this position, I bring that kind of leadership to try and resolve problems.
<br /> So in this case, from early 2017 it has been trying to understand how we could get them to a
<br /> Special Permit application. The violations eventually went into litigation and went off my desk
<br /> as a violation that I could deal with, and went into litigation with Corporation Counsel. As those
<br /> fines and fees have been kind of accumulating over time, I do want to say that there was a
<br /> stipulation for Christie Cash to stop her operations, and that has occurred in certain areas. And
<br /> so part of it was taking the time to think where we go forward to have a Special Permit come
<br /> forward to you folks to be able to make a decision. So I don't, to a certain extent, I want to
<br /> separate out what the violation and the fees will be, because part of it is if we can find a
<br /> resolution forward with a Special Permit, then we can address what the final fee may, what will
<br /> happen to that, because the fine and fees is accumulating because there is a violation, so you
<br /> want to cure the violation, and in this case we are looking at a Special Permit. So trying to hang
<br /> a violation over their head, that becomes problematic when you are trying to find a path forward.
<br /> So, yes, I would even say I don't know offhand how much the fine and fee is at this point,
<br /> because to a certain extent, once it went out of my hands in probably 2018 to Corporation
<br /> Counsel, it was off my radar to get to a Special Permit, not on accumulating fines and fees; at the
<br /> point I probably had stepped off, we probably had a couple of hundred thousand, because you
<br /> have daily fines and stuff. So I don't know if a half million dollars is a correct amount; I have
<br /> actually no idea, I'd have to check our Corporation Counsel. I could generally say once we get
<br /> to a resolution, if we can find a resolution, we will settle that violation in some form or fashion.
<br /> I don't have complete control of what that resolution will be, though,just to let you know, it's
<br /> not my decision alone. So, thank you.
<br /> CARR SMITH: That was very helpful for me, thank you. Go ahead, Faye. You have a
<br /> question?
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