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HALL: Thank you. REPLOGLE: That's a great idea. TOMLINSON: I think I get where you are coming from in general with your line of questioning. So, I'll answer the first part about the COW location, its down in Kalapana and to be honest I don't know the precise location but it's very much south towards the water. In terms of COW's there they are temporary facilities that don't provide the bandwidth level of service that this permanent facility would provide. So, it's again a temporary solution as would be I would imagine T-Mobile's and Verizon's and so we wouldn't be able to co-locate on those. In terms of the Verizon tower my understanding is as Maija pointed out it's much further south down the road from our location and it's also not built. It being south is a significant factor because we identified these particular areas where we need to cover more north up the road. So, that's why this particular location is chosen, it got the elevation, and exposure to the road as well as pointing down towards Kalapana and gives us connectivity back up closer to our other towers towards Pahoa. If in the future Verizon builds their tower down towards the south and there's a need for coverage down, there those are always considered co-location areas are always considered as part of the process in development. So, this particular location was chosen because it fills the significant gap that's been identified for the area and meets the objectives that AT & T is really specifically trying to identify particularly for FirstNet. FirstNet has requirements that these facilities get built in a timely fashion in the very near future here. So, there's a need to fill this demand from FirstNet in particular as well as other coverage in the area for the general public. That's why we are moving on this location. AGUINALDO: Another one Andrew, would it be, why build it right away? Why don't we like you just said the COW and I'm pretty sure your COW is right behind the old Catholic painted church. We call them by the water spigot down there. So, I'm very familiar with where your COW is located that's why I asked the questions if you knew where your — TOMLINSON: Sure. AGUINALDO: — COW was. How come AT & T doesn't put a temporary COW for now, see if it works the signal or whatever because it's temporary versus just putting up a permanent COW. Not a permanent COW but a permanent cell tower. TOMLINSON: Facility. AGUINALDO: Yeah. TOMLINSON: Because the COW's do not provide the bandwidths and the frequencies for LTE as well as FirstNet. Their basic phone services only so they won't fulfill the requirements that EXHIBIT C 14