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<br />KS: I don’t know exact numbers, I apologize, I do know that they were <br />recovering – that they were actually considered to be down listed but I think <br />in the last little bit, I don’t know exactly – I think in the last little bit and <br />maybe their recovery has slowed – so they haven’t continued to increase. <br />We have a State entomologist – her name is Cynthia King – she runs that <br />project and would know more details about it but I do know that, like I said, <br />it was increasing for a little while – it was hopeful that maybe we could <br />down, maybe not delist completely but it’s down listed to threatened <br />instead of endangered but we didn’t get to that point yet. <br /> <br />AA: So it would be more so the plants being the priority than the moth because <br />the moth is doing well then, right, kinda, you know, getting better. Because <br />threatened and endangered would fall under two different rules, right? <br /> <br />KS: \[Unclear\] something we need to consider. <br /> <br />AA: Endangered and threatened is two different rules, right? <br /> <br />KS: No, they just have different priorities for how they receive funding from the <br />federal government. Basically, same rules – same laws apply – same <br />protections apply – but when we try to receive funding from the federal <br />government to do management they prioritize differently, if that makes <br />sense. <br /> <br />AA: Yeah, that makes sense. And as far as like the eradication part of getting all <br />of the ungulates out or whatever – instead of eradication and everybody <br />brought this up to you before – can’t there be a number where it’s more <br />manageable number where you guys can use our resources instead of <br />ungulates to control the grasses or weeds that you guys encountering – <br />instead of taking ‘em all just bring ‘em down to a lower number that can <br />support out gathering. <br /> <br />KS: Within the fences – we propose about 8,000 acres worth of fences, right? <br /> <br />AA: Yeah. <br /> <br />9 <br /> <br /> <br />