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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – October 24, 2016 <br />PC: Absolutely. There are ways to control and in some cases eradicate <br />rodents and mongoose without rodenticides – yes, but there are certain <br />situations where it’s almost impossible without extreme great effort to do <br />so... <br /> <br />JB: Is that because of large, large areas or something like that? <br /> <br />PC: Large areas, large populations or very dangerous situations where it <br />would be impractical for us to put people in those situations. <br /> <br />JB: Right. I think it just concerns a lot of us, you know, rodenticides being out <br />there and once it’s gone – it’s, you know, out there – it’s out there and it <br />can get into a lot of things and poison our children and, and hunters and <br />everybody. You just – you just never really know and so I would just ask <br />you to please, please, ah, strongly consider using them as little as <br />possible if not at all and then my other question is – would you – my buddy <br />makes like the best smoked meat on earth and would you eat it if the pig <br />had eaten a rat with rodenticide? You know? I mean, we all have to <br />consider that and a lot of hunters pride themselves with eating the meat <br />that doesn’t have anything bad in it, you know, you don’t know what you’re <br />getting when you buy something, but when you, when you hunt it you’re – <br />you’re usually pretty sure that’s it’s healthy and I’m just pleading with you <br />to use as little if not any at all, ah, especially on our island, um, but <br />wherever you’re – you guys are working. <br /> <br />PC: Well, I mean, that’s a valid concern and there are a lot of situations where, <br />ah, especially doing conservation where, ah, we will only pick areas that <br />will, um, not have those kinds of interactions – so, I mean, if, if, a lot of <br />conservation is dependent upon laying the ground work ahead of your <br />doing those actions so, um, if it would – in areas that are, of course, game <br />management areas, ah, those are less likely for us to, to be interested in <br />doing these kinds of conservation actions anyway, um, so it’s largely that, <br />ah, these kinds of interactions between, ah, the two, ah, conservation <br />actions and hunting actions will probably be in, in, ah, different areas to <br />begin with. So… <br /> <br />TN: Excuse me – this is Teresa. Um, how far does a rodent travel or a <br />mongoose travel from the bait area whether it leaves the bait conservation <br />area and ends up by the beach or the mountain. Have you tracked them? <br />Have you tracked the rodents or mongoose as to how far they travel? So if <br />you bait them in a conservation area – have you found them outside of the <br />conservation area – and I’m worried about our pueos – that if the rat and <br />mongoose eats this poisonous substance – I’ll call it what it is – it’s <br />poisonous – and they go out of the conservation area and then now <br />they’re hunted by the pueos and other species, I mean, have you folks <br />tracked the distance of their – how far they can travel... <br /> 23 <br /> <br />