2018-11-13 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes 2

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes – October 24, 2016 resources in the human environment. And it needs to take into consideration impacts to cultural rights, practices and resources. As we’re doing this we’re also doing parallel processes looking at cultural impacts so we are doing, um, we are looking at things from a federal and state perspective looking at it from cultural permitting too. TL: OK. May I ask a question? EC: Yeah. TL: On – when you say “sound ecological principals” what exactly does that mean? EC: Well, I think, when I think about sound ecological principals, you know, some of it is going to be looking at are we reducing the predators and actually having an impact on the population. I think there’s situations where you have individuals doing predator control where actually the predator control has no impact. That’s a problem. The other thing is, if you’re doing predator control – are you actually having a response in the species that you’re trying to save. So, in, it’s in the very simplest sense, you know, sound ecological principals, but, you know, we want to make sure that what we’re doing is safe and effective but we shouldn’t be doing it if we’re not having a positive effect on what I consider the targets which are the species that are important to us. So the next thing I want to phase into is how will it accomplish rodent and mongoose control and eradication. What will it do, what will it not do, what methods are considered and what are the alternatives? And I think a key thing that I want to comment on here is – in this we use the terms “control” and “eradication.” When I look at a main Hawaiian Island case – most cases we’re really looking at control of pests in an area, um, where you are gonna have reinvasion and you’re gonna have to re-treat areas if there isn’t a fence around it. We’ve started to have some areas for rodents and mongoose where there are multi-species barriers being put up for seabirds in particular. In those areas you’re not gonna have rodent and mongoose re-invasion in, but I think in the most cases here, you’re looking at application of things multiple times over time. The cases that I think about eradication are gonna be off-shore islands, so, I think that’s a key important term that people need to look at and, and, you know, that’s, for instance, projects that are being considered right now are mice on Midway, ah, is an example of that. So, again, I want to just cover what will it do, what won’t it do – methods considered and alternatives. So what will it do? And I think this, this is critical. It’s for informational and planning purposes only. So what we want to do is to make sure the managers know the different methods that are available to them and those methods have public review. So we do want that disclosure with the public. We want to 9