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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting
<br />Minutes – March 21, 2016
<br />?: I like the idea of broadcast because they’ve done bait stations and they’re
<br />super hard – I mean, you have to have so many stations and this huge
<br />grid and you have to be able to cover it and, you know, so if it’s real open
<br />country, you know, it’s really super hard work to go to every station and
<br />bait ‘em – but, at least, you’re not doing a lot of damage. If you were to go
<br />into an intact, ah, you know, forest or, for instance, in some of our – like
<br />seabird nesting areas – that are – the burrows are super tight so you can’t
<br />even hardly walk around in there without, um, crushing burrows or causing
<br />damage and so this would – allows us to go in and, and, um, kill the rats
<br />without having a whole lot of other impact, ah, to the birds that we’re trying
<br />to protect.
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<br />?: Yeah, I understand that it would be easier for you – but, how about its
<br />impact on the non-targeted population?
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<br />?: Ah, that’s, that’s part of what this programmatic EIS will be evaluating for
<br />us – is to, to let us know better when it’s more appropriate to use the bait
<br />stations versus broadcast, versus trapping and allow us to decide – at that
<br />point – what the best technique for this particular area with the sensitivities
<br />that exist there.
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<br />?: And what are the metrics to determine your success or non-success or
<br />how are you going to determine…
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<br />?: It’s be determined by relying on this EIS – the EIS doesn’t – hasn’t been…
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<br />?: You’re gonna go look for dead rats or how are you gonna go about doing
<br />it?
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<br />?: We’ll have goals – so I just want to say – it’s not about being easier for us
<br />– it’s about being effective and, ah, so, what we’re trying to accomplish –
<br />so we don’t just go kill rats for fun, you know, we’re doing it for a reason –
<br />and, so, you’ll have a metric that’ll be like – and it’s usually nesting
<br />success – so what we’re looking for is, is fledglings or birds that are able
<br />to fledge or survive, you know, so if chicks are able to survive and aren’t
<br />taken by rats and, so, ah, that’ll be your measure of success is how many
<br />birds, ah, survive to fledge.
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<br />RS: Yeah, my name’s Rick Shaning, I live in Hakalau area and, um, I just – I
<br />see U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service EIS that you’re holding up there – so…
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<br />?: It’s a \[sounds like PES\], yah, it’s a pre-decisional document.
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<br />RS: So it’s an environmental assessment then?
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<br />?: Ah, it’s gonna be an environmental impact statement…
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