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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – March 21, 2016 <br />TL: State your name first, please… <br /> <br />JS: Ah, my name is John Sabati. So my question is – what would be the <br />effects, if you know, if the pueo and ‘io – the Hawaiian hawk – feed these <br />rodents that are effected by the poison to their young and what about, you <br />know, we’re talking about the younger wildlife – like maybe keiki pigs, you <br />know the young ‘io, the young owls? How would this poison affect them, <br />because you’re saying large quantities – yet, we talking about young <br />wildlife – small wildlife? <br /> <br />?: Well, the research that we did originally showed that they weren’t foraging <br />on dead animals. <br /> <br />JS: Well, not necessarily dead, because you said it takes four to five days… <br /> <br />?: Yeah… <br /> <br />JS: ….for the rats to die, but what if they catch ‘em when they wandering <br />around in a sick daze? <br /> <br />?: Yeah, that hasn’t been our experience. We’ve used it quite a bit. What <br />they tend to do is hole up – once they start getting sick they hole up <br />underground or in burrows and that kind of thing. We did a bunch of stuff <br />with mongooses where we radio collared them and then we had two areas <br />– some areas we had ‘em, ah, we had, ah, we treated it with Diphacinone <br />and some areas we did not – and, ah, the areas, ah, where the animals <br />were treated with Diphacinone – we were having to go in and dig ‘em out <br />to get the collars back. <br /> <br />JS: Well, I know about a guy that – here in Kona – that rehabilitates rafters <br />and I had several conversations with him – it’s Mr. Snyder. And he treated <br />– took care of ah owls and hawks that were affected by eating rats that <br />were affected by poison. <br /> <br />?: Yeah, it can be a problem. And the second generation of anti-coagulants <br />also, ah, can be much more of a problem – that’s why we’re not trying to <br />get things like Warfarin or Bromethalindificon \[sp?\] and those because <br />those are more single feed anti-coagulants so we’re not trying to get <br />approval to use those in conservation areas. <br /> <br />JS: That’s all I have. <br /> <br />TL: All right, John. Um, that’s… Oh? <br /> <br />RK: Hi, ah, Ryan Kohatsu, I used to be GMAC District 3 here, but, um, I just <br />got a quick question – I think it was stated that this was specifically more <br /> 16 <br /> <br />