2016-03-21 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes – March 21, 2016 – you’re right – you just don’t know sometimes what you’re, ah, results are gonna be. We try our best but we’re certainly not perfect. ?: \[Not speaking in mic\] NP: Amen. ?: Well, cause we think that, ah, we like to manage certain things like seabirds will pretty much be wiped out – the water birds will pretty much be wiped out and we just don’t want to sit and watch that happen. So we make – we have a value system to value certain things over others so - - for instance we value native seabirds and native water birds over rats and mongooses, so, we kill rats and mongooses to protect seabirds and water birds – if other people feel differently and want rats and mongooses instead then they’re welcome to comment. TL: Bryan? ?: \[Not speaking in mic\] ?: That’s a really bad program – they shouldn’t do that. ?: I know they are – but we don’t like it. ?: \[Not speaking in mic\] ?: Ah, we would love to stop it. We’re trying to stop it. ?: I don’t think that’s good for cats or wildlife. I don’t think that’s a good life for a cat to be out there like that and at one point the National Humane Society came out and did not support that program. We’ve – I’ve looked at it extensively – I don’t think it’s good for cats – and it’s certainly not good for wildlife. TL: Ike? DY: Ah, I’ve a comment. I think what I’ve heard is and, and – Jim Cogswell, right? You’ve been to a couple of these meetings, yeah, and constantly, I think you’ve heard the cynicism and the skepticism about what you guys do, um, so my suggestion is that somewhere in the vast chambers of DLNR that some decision be made that, ah, there is some energy and, and attempt made to deal with the skepticism and cynicism because until you do that, ah, anytime you try to do some of these programs you’re gonna run into this and it’s the worst thing that can happen because we need to have these programs of control, but you cannot just come into a community and do it and, you know, there’ve been community meetings 20