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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – March 21, 2016 <br />TL: Oh, thank you, um, yeah. Very well said actually. Gentlemen, with that, we <br />could get you here to the front table and want to go start with that question <br />that \[unclear\] it’s been on everybody’s line so, ah, if you want to weigh in <br />on that we would really appreciate it. <br /> <br />?: OK. The PES – so we’ve done quite a bit of research and worked with <br />Diphacinone which is the anticoagulant they’re looking to use for <br />conservation use. We’ve used it quite a bit, it’s really an effective tool for <br />conservation. You can, ah… <br /> <br />?: \[Not speaking in mic\] <br /> <br />?: Yeah. OK. So \[technical difficulty\] we’ve used it extensively for <br />conservation work. It’s really effective, um, you know, instead of spraying <br />it over the forest isn’t really accurate, we’ve, um, well it’s used in very <br />controlled circumstances. We use it on off shore islands to eradicate rats, <br />to protect, ah, seabirds, we’ve used it in wetland areas to get rid of <br />mongooses and rats and it’s very effective, ah, a lot of the native species <br />have a really hard time with, um, ground, the ground-nesting birds <br />especially, but even our forest birds have a real hard time with the rats, <br />cause rats will climb the trees, ah, and take eggs and chicks and even <br />nesting females out of the nest at night and so, in areas where – if <br />Broadcast were used, ah, it would be used in areas that are completely <br />fenced and inaccessible to animals, so that’s kind of the rule under which <br />it would be used in the forest for Broadcast – but it’s also used in bait <br />stations and what not too – it’s a very effective tool – we’ve been using it <br />for many decades and, um, you know, Diphacinone is a – was developed <br />as an anti-coagulant – as a blood thinner – it can be used medicinally for <br />humans, ah, we’ve used it effectively for a long time, so, I, I think it’s a <br />very important tool for us to use for conservation and, you know, I’m <br />obviously very concerned about watersheds and water quality and health, <br />as well, so… <br /> <br />?: \[Not speaking in mic\] <br /> <br />?: Can I follow-up on that? Um, and just to add – the way it works is it’s <br />pretty much designed for mammals and it needs to be consumed, ah, in <br />fairly large quantities over a period of time, so it’s – unless you’re the size <br />of a rat – it’s not going to be – not going to have a large effect on you and <br />especially if you don’t eat it over a week – a month period – I mean – <br />that’s what they need to do – the rats themselves they need to eat… <br /> <br />NP: So birds are the size of a rat. <br /> <br />?: And birds, ah, it actually doesn’t affect birds as much and so, ah, where <br />we use it is very specific. We do – every time we would use it, um, we do <br /> 4 <br /> <br />