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several attempts—except for one needing to be done covering up the graffiti in that place. So I <br /> just wanted to speak to that, if maybe Alex or Judith could elaborate more on perhaps what <br /> they've seen <br /> CARR SMITH: Thank you <br /> NEWBERG: Thank you. <br /> CARR SMITH: Thank you, Commissioner Newberg. Judith, do you have a response? <br /> RUFFNER: Yes, please. I really appreciate your driving by there, first of all; I think that's, <br /> that's really key to understanding what we are living with. Those of us in Kona Reef live <br /> directly across Kahakai Road from the current structure, and I can see it easily from the front of <br /> my condo. So, you know, there isreally, it's only the street that is separating us from that <br /> property. There are two entrances that's had chain-link gates, and both of those are open; they <br /> are still locked, but they are open far enough so that people can get in and out. And I was just <br /> there last month. I checked there is one along Alii Drive, which is jimmied open. Again, <br /> there is a lock around it, a chain and a lock, but it's been separated so that, you know,people can <br /> squeeze in there, and then the same for the big gates along Kahakai Road. So it's—and it's not <br /> just the trash, it's the weeds. A lot of the graffiti has already been painted over by people who <br /> live at Kona Reef just as an attempt to, you know, keep it to a minimum. Graffiti generally gets <br /> more graffiti. So I know my neighbors have been very active in trying to keep it clean. But the <br /> weeds are out of control, you know, the,just that the chain-link fence, the rust, the peeling paint, <br /> it's, it's very unsightly. <br /> CARR SMITH: Thank you very much. Alex, did you want to respond? <br /> DUNCAN: Yes, please, thank you. Thank you, Commissioner, for going by - - -. The graffiti <br /> that's on there currently is new. You can see, if you come down Kahakai Road, you'll see a <br /> different color gray, which has been painted over the old graffiti, right, gray cement-color paint. <br /> Yes, there isn't much trash around there right now because the local community picks up the <br /> trash just to make it look a little cleaner and neater. So you came by at a good time to see all the <br /> trash picked up. In regards to the gate on Kahakai Road that is chain-linked, you can pull it <br /> apart, and we see skinny vagrants squeeze right between the gates to get in. And they are able to <br /> jump over the barbwire fence, which is next on the right-hand side of the entrance; you'll see the <br /> barbwires are already pushed down to where they just step over the barbwire to go into the <br /> underground parking. So, once again, it, it's just kind of a mess, you know, something just needs <br /> to be done. Thank you very much. <br /> CARR SMITH: Thank you, appreciate it. Any other questions? Max, go ahead. <br /> NEWBERG: Thank you both, Alex and Judith, for sharing further. Chair or possibly anybody <br /> that has further knowledge on this project I don't know if I have the name of the realty <br /> company correct, is it C. J. Kimberly that's kind of surrounding by this U-shape property, they <br /> are on the makai side of there—has there been any, any testimony or communications with those <br /> folks if they've noticed or can validate or add to this conversation at all? <br /> 4 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br />