2020-12-17 Leeward Exh B (AMEND SMA 388)

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know, Mr. Fuke, and to the attorneys, you know, you guys are, that's not your area of expertise with this development. FUKE: Well, if YOSHIMOTO: Can I just look at—sorry, Sid—can I just speak a general comment? You know, I think—and I mentioned this in the last hearing—everybody wants this thing to get built, right? I mean that's the goal; we all have the same goal. And I want to be able to do what we need to do to set up, set the developer up for success. As we've all seen, sometimes there are delays. I wanted to get this thing through in the beginning of 2019. I couldn't get a hold of SHPD for 11 months and needed to, you know, have Jeff and Jessica help me. That was totally out of our control, and that happens, anybody who does development, that happens very consistently. So I suspect that's why this is backloaded. Because you have to be able to anticipate delays; if we don't allow for that sort of buffer, we are setting—so then it's revoked, and we have to come back, and then that building sits here then, I mean, like this a lot likely. It's just the reality. People hate that excuse, but it's the reality. So I just wanted to offer that. You are right, I'm not an expert in this, I defer to Sid in terms of timing,but I do think whatever comes out of today should set this project up for success. VITOUSEK: And I believe that this project has been given 20 years in which you could have succeeded, and so in order to move forward it needs to be on an extremely short leash with conditions met in certain periods of time, and if that can't be done, then once and for all we will know that this developer cannot do it, and they'll have to get off the pot. CARR SMITH: So thank you—is there any reason, Evan, Kim, or Sid, that this gentleman that's watching online, is there any reason that he can't join us? I think the commissioners would like to have the developer present. Is that possible? We can take a 15-minute break and have him join in the call? FUKE: Kim—I'll defer to Kim. YOSHIMOTO: I can ask, I mean I know he's do-you know, you know what is with Zoom, you are monitoring things while doing other things, but I can make that asked. Can we take a break? CARR SMITH: The Commission has been asking for that for a bit, so maybe we'll take a little break, you can find out whether that is possible. Would that work? YOSHIMOTO: Sure. CARR SMITH: Okay, thank you. It's 10:57. Let's come back in 10 minutes, and then we'll see where we go from there. Thank you. (Chair Carr Smith called a recess at 10:57 a.m. She called the hearing back to order at 11:12 a.m.) 16 EXHIBIT B