2020-12-17 Leeward Exh D (Discussion re permit extension)

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into account when re-evaluating this project. So, that's the intention of what, what I was talking about. CARR SMITH: Yeah, yeah. Well, thank you for working with Jeff on this. Commissioner Van Pernis, do you have something new, or? VAN PERNIS: I wanted to respond to Barbara, Barbara's comments, which are it's the applicant's responsibility to inform us of everything that should be considered. Their investment or whatever. We shouldn't have to guess; we shouldn't have to wonder. In Mike's presentation on this is not about time, they can get as many extensions as allowed, as long as the Planning Commission can impose appropriate conditions rather than having a development approved in 1990, built in 2025 with no additional conditions or changes and the result being that the population, the public pays for the problems that the developer is creating by his delay. It's only fair, it's only good planning and other jurisdictions do it that way and I don't know why we shouldn't. CARR SMITH: That's what we're working on. Okay, very good. Thank you all, appreciate your efforts on this. Thank you. DARROW: If I could just CARR SMITH: Yeah. DARROW: --say something in summary, is that I'm not sure which commissioner it was that mentioned this, but might have been Commissioner Vitousek, the, you know, amendments take a while, rule changes take some time and stuff, but in the meantime, there is the option to add the conditions in the permit of what the commission wants to see. So, if the commission wants to see those, those review of effects that have, that come out we can put a condition in there or try to word a condition that we can start adding in there that if these things happen, we need to re- review. Additionally, I've seen in the past where there's been sunset time on the permits. It'll say the period of time for this, the life of the permit is ten years, that's it. They have to come back, but basically it's, I've seen one that actually, there was a number of permits that were issued that said that the life of this permit is ten years, but the intention was that they wanted them to relocate to an area that was more zoned appropriately like an industrial area, but there weren't any available during that time, but it appeared that in time there would be areas available for zoning that they could move to. So, these kind of conditions the commission has, has gotten creative and added in. They're not just standardized conditions. So again, until those changes occur, there's always those options available. CARR SMITH: Right. Good. KEALOHA: I have a quick follow up on that, you know, as opposed to sunset, a notion that entitlements or permits can be assigned, because I agree, with Mr. Van Pernis that some developers will seek the entitlements just so they can improve the value of their property for sale. And if you eliminate that opportunity, then they'll be incentivized to finish the project through so 8 EXHIBIT D