2021-02-18 Leeward Exh A (SMA 20-076 & SSV 20-012)

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VAN PERNIS: So if that information was adequately investigated by the department on that would show the application would not or might or would affect the park in the future with sea level rise, would your recommendation possibly change? KERN: If there was modeling that would show it wasn't going to have an effect with sea level rise, my recommendation would be a favorable recommendation. VAN PERNIS: The KERN: That's why I'm speaking here to, to try to say it's a heartburn one for me, and with the lack of information I feel I can't move, I can't give it a favorable. VAN PERNIS: So it's based on lack of information, not the application itself. KERN: Well, if you look at the EA and if you look at the erosion study, the erosion study is very specific to that property and the front of the property; it does not really take into effect Honl's Beach. And the same situation with the environmental assessment, it doesn't really give other alternatives, and I just don't feel it actually takes into effect, you know, Honl's Beach next door, which is one of the few sandy beach resources that we have left along Alii Drive. VAN PERNIS: So if that information was available, or provided, you would reconsider. KERN: Yeah, and that was the discussions that we've had with the applicant. I went to the site visit, I walked on the walls, I walked on, and I said, hey, if you can help provide us more sound data that we can make a sound decision off of, I would like to be able to support this. Again, it's a critical conversation right now on a critical application moving forward. VAN PERNIS: Were the seawalls on other property adjoining the park heading south, and there's two walls north of the property, and the commercial aspect of this property in their timeshare considered? KERN: I'm not sure if I understand the question. VAN PERNIS: Well, let me restate it, that's two questions. In your consideration of whether the beach park would be affected, were the seawalls to the south of the park considered, and the seawalls to the north of this applicant's property considered? And the second questions is, is the commercial aspect of this applicant's property, and that is heavily used timeshare, considered in your decision? KERN: For the last question as far as a commercial use, no, it was not considered in the decision. The shoreline hardening both south and north were not. Again, my decision was based on the lack of date, lack of information. I'm not qualified to make that decision. That's why I build in comment to have an engineer or somebody of that nature that specializes in this. This is the same, the same type of studies that they are using on other islands for this type of application. VAN PERNIS: Thank you. 7 EXHIBIT A