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propose that the zoning be lost, but that after a five-year, another five years, where we've gone <br /> 20 years without subdivision, that a new application be appropriate. So I would ask that <br /> condition, or the new amended ordinance, has any consequence if the five years is not met, or it <br /> does mean nothing. <br /> CAMERO: SoI can answer that, Commissioner Van Pernisso, going down to condition O, <br /> if the five years aren't met, the applicants will have to come back to the Planning Commission <br /> and go through this process again and request for an additional time extension at that time, if <br /> they can't complete any of the final subdivision. <br /> VAN PERNIS: And that's with no additional conditions or no penalty whatsoever? <br /> VITOUSEK: At that time, any additional conditions could be imparted upon review of the <br /> secondary extension just like we are doing now; the, you know, the ordinance has become stale, <br /> we are taking a look at the zoning and determining if there are any updated conditions that need <br /> to be put in place. That's kind of the idea of what's happening here and that will be what will <br /> happen in the future. I feel like condition O could be updated to include that it would be before <br /> Planning Commission review, as well as being submitted to the County Council, for appropriate <br /> action. Would that make sense to everybody? <br /> CAMERO: Yes, that would. Typical Planning Department process is that before this ordinance <br /> will go to the County Council, it would come in to the Planning Department and the director <br /> would direct it to the Planning Commission to make a recommendation on it, and we would <br /> essentially start this all over again, as well as what I just kind of did. <br /> VITOUSEK: If—okay, Commissioner Van Pernis, go ahead. <br /> VAN PERNIS: Why can that be stated in the amended ordinance? <br /> VITOUSEK: It will be, it will be stated as condition O of the recommendations to the Planning, <br /> to the County Council, and then it will be up to them to include it in their ordinance; we are <br /> purely a recommendary body to the County Council for a zoning change or time extension. So <br /> we can make the recommendation in our conditions, and then it'll be up to the County Council to <br /> incorporate that or not. <br /> I would actually like to—is there, are there any other questions from the commission? (No <br /> audible response) Okay, I would like to ask a couple of questions, more, they are a little bit more <br /> general, so you'll have to pardon me for that, but I just thought this was an interesting example <br /> where you have a long-time kama`aina family in the Mahi's who were attempting to subdivide <br /> for family purposes, and obviously ran into some issues with being able to compete that <br /> subdivision, and I just want to take a second to try to take a look at the barriers that prevented <br /> them from having, being able to complete the subdivision and allow their family to take over it. <br /> Is there any indication as to why the original applicant was unable to complete the requirements? <br /> CAMERO: Not that I know of. I know Ms. Mahi, she immediately came and she started the <br /> subdivision process one year after the ordinance was approved; however, she did pass away in <br /> 6 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br />