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either of those sewers in the near term to the subject property, but that would be the best solution
<br /> that would serve these 50 lots that would provide for the highest level of treatment, and it would
<br /> be most cost effective, not, not saying that it wouldn't be costly, but. So that would be the
<br /> preferred alternative to have, yes, all of these cesspools converted by converting them to sewer
<br /> use; that would be the best for the environment, nearshore water quality, etcetera, and so forth.
<br /> So that would be our preference, and I think we'll find that the applicant, Mr. Arejian, is very
<br /> reasonable and acceptable to reasonable conditions to be imposed on this. So with that, I'll turn
<br /> it over and hope for just a very respectful discussion with lots of aloha and fair and impartial
<br /> treatment, that's all we ask for. Thank you.
<br /> VITOUSEK: Okay, are there any questions from commissioners? Commissioner DeFranco.
<br /> DEFRANCO: So, back to the waste management, so you've said that, you know, it's an existing
<br /> cesspool, and granted the other people have cesspools, but the opportunity, the third opportunity
<br /> is to do a septic system. Have you considered this?
<br /> PIPAN: Yes, andoh, can I go ahead and respond?
<br /> VITOUSEK: Yes, yep.
<br /> PIPAN: So the trick comes with the size and the layout of the parcel and the existing cesspool.
<br /> If we bring up the site plan, or if you just recall the site plan, the parking is all on the mauka side
<br /> next to Alii Drive, tucked in the north-end corner of the usable area of this parcel. The cesspool
<br /> is there, it's 10 by 4 by 10 feet deep, concrete reinforced, you know, all permitted, all up to spec
<br /> at the time it was installed. So, to design and actually install a septic system there is going to be
<br /> a little tricky, given the space constraints. I'm not saying that it's impossible; it may be possible.
<br /> There is an additional wrinkle in that this is a shoreline parcel, and the certified shoreline that
<br /> we've got on our site plans is from the late, mid-late 80's. Shorelines change. If we plan to put
<br /> in a septic system, this is going to instigate another round of Special Management Area
<br /> permitting, they are going to likely, the Planning Department is likely going to look at the
<br /> certified shoreline from the 80's and request that it be updated. So a new shoreline, may it be
<br /> closer to the, to the dwelling, could put the backside of the dwelling within the 40-foot
<br /> mandatory shoreline setback. So then we would be in the position where state law prohibits us
<br /> from putting in a septic system because it's too close to the shoreline. So what do we do in that
<br /> situation? We would have to A,prepare an environmental assessment, and B, seek a shoreline
<br /> setback variance to put the cesspool, or put the septic system in, or any improved wastewater
<br /> treatment options. So it's not that we are averse to doing this. This is a good idea. It's just there
<br /> are complicating factors, namely the shoreline setback.
<br /> VITOUSEK: How far down the road have you gone in that analysis? Have you, have you
<br /> priced it out and done anything concrete in terms of figuring out what cost it would be to get a
<br /> cesspool up- or septic upgrade?
<br /> PIPAN: So,just generally, septic systems run-of-the-mill, kind of easy to layout, not, not any
<br /> tricky situations would be 10 to 15,000. This one, given that we've got space constraints, we
<br /> may have to do something innovative or, you know,just unusual that is still within the DOH
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