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JACKSON: That is correct, and I just framed it that way, Mike, because Commissioner <br /> Van Pernis's suggested language was geared more towards rezones. But you absolutely do have <br /> authority to put conditions in and time limits on Use Permits, Special Permits, SMA permits, <br /> shoreline setback variances. <br /> VITOUSEK: Okay, Commissioner Van Pernis, would you take us through your suggestion? <br /> You are on mute. Commissioneroh, there you go. <br /> VAN PERNIS: First, I want to point out that the biggest reason for problems and argument in <br /> the County Council and in this commission is because of the delays that people seek and without <br /> any additional conditions. And I want to point out that I have discussed this matter with <br /> members of the County Council, and they uniformly ask why isn't such a condition as I've <br /> presented, why isn't that made part of our recommendations. They are generally in favor of this <br /> so that they don't have to negotiate. And I would point out that numerous applications, for <br /> instance, the past application of Puaa Development LLC and Suffolk Development LLC <br /> involved delays and expired ordinances for 25 years, and <br /> VITOUSEK: Hold on, Mr. Van Pernis <br /> VAN PERNIS: (Indiscernible—simultaneous speech) <br /> VITOUSEK: Commissioner Van Pernis, we can't speak directly about any specific projects, <br /> but you can speak in the, you know, hypothetical about projects that you are trying to <br /> VAN PERNIS: The Youngs app <br /> VITOUSEK: You know, we are, the entire discussion about change in conditions and that's <br /> okay, but we don't want to relate that(indiscernible—simultaneous speech) <br /> VAN PERNIS: All right. Many applications <br /> VITOUSEK: (Indiscernible—simultaneous speech)projects—hold on one second <br /> VAN PERNIS: I'll just(indiscernible—simultaneous speech) <br /> VITOUSEK: for Sunshine Law purposes. Go ahead. <br /> VAN PERNIS: Many applications including ones considered today have expired, and people <br /> think they can get extensions despite expired applications without having to present or argue any <br /> future conditions. This is a major problem and the biggest controversy that has risen. The <br /> language I proposed deals with that and leads to open the matter of how long an ordinance <br /> should be able to survive without new conditions being considered. It doesn't mean that there <br /> have to be new conditions that are imposed, but they certainly need to be considered. There is <br /> decades often go by without any sort of contribution added when changes are very significant <br /> and need to be added. All of the expenses end up with the taxpayer, rather than the developer <br /> who is benefiting. <br /> 2 <br /> EXHIBIT C <br />