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the changing environment in the community. I think that that is what, you know—and then at <br /> that point they would have to reapply for that continuation of their ordinance, and we would then <br /> recondition it and then move forward according to the zoning that's been issued. Director Kern. <br /> KERN: Thank you, Mr. Chair. So outside of an administrative time extension, which is <br /> generally allowed on most permits, we go—it's being implied by Mr. Van Pernis that we don't <br /> allow public comments, that there is not a review process, that there isn't a recommendation <br /> done by the respective planning commission, and there isn't something that goes on at Council, it <br /> implies that it just,just happens automatically if somebody asks for it. And, I mean, you folks <br /> see it all the time that's not necessarily the case. I know there has been some challenging <br /> applications, but when it goes through, they, we have to look at how this, the Planning <br /> Department has to look at how that request for a time extension of that zoning relates to every <br /> single element that exists today, the current General Plan, the CDP, they have to send out notices <br /> to surrounding property owners just like they would with a fresh application, they have to, we <br /> have to send it out to all the agencies for comments; it goes through every single process that a <br /> fresh application would. I'm just, I'm just confused on, I guess I'm perplexed of what the <br /> additional requirements. I would get it if you just said, hey, it's only a time extension and every <br /> condition is locked in stone and you can't change that and there is no public testimony now, sure, <br /> I'd fully get it. But when it has to go through the same process—is it more of a notification to <br /> the applicant as, and they are saying that if this expires,just be put on notice we are going to <br /> review these conditions, like this is going to, we are going to take a fresh look at it? That's a <br /> different story because that would never message—and it's more of a communication issue; it's <br /> not change, it's not necessarily change in the process. <br /> VITOUSEK: Commissioner Van Pernis, what, what procedural change do you think would be <br /> needed in order to accomplish what you are trying to do? Commissioner Van Pernis. <br /> VAN PERNIS: Well, first of all, let me say that the administrative extension privilege given to <br /> the applicant and the planning director is limited by my suggested language, which can be <br /> modified, of course, so we don't get into a situation with the administrative extensions of five, <br /> 10, 15 years, three at a time, that don't add any conditions whatsoever despite the change in time. <br /> Mr. Kern doesn't address that subject. We are talking about, he is talking about a new <br /> application. I think the language should be utilized so that there is a limit on administrative <br /> extensions without additional conditions and additional public input <br /> VITOUSEK: Hold on a second there. For most cases, the commission or the Council who is the <br /> approving authority, are in advance establishing when administrative time condition [sic] can be <br /> issued, so that's pre-built into the permit— <br /> KERN: <br /> ermitKERN: And it's also, it's also the, it's inI believe it's codified and in practice—we can't issue <br /> multiple time extensions on an ordinance or a Special Permit; the only thing we can issue <br /> multiple time extensions on is like a subdivision because it's an administrative permit, that's <br /> basically a right, entitlement to it. We are only allowed to issue one administrative time <br /> extension, so if the zoning ordinance said five years, we are only allowed to issue one <br /> administrative time extension up to five years; we can't say, oh, you know what, we actually feel <br /> 6 <br /> EXHIBIT C <br />