2021-03-01 Redistricting Commission minutes (1st Session)

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ROSENBROCK: Anybody else? LUL Yeah, I'm just curious, is the population count broken out by age at all? ROSENBROCK: The block population base has got general data attached to it. That would be race, I believe age, within ranges, right? So, 18 and below, and 25 to 18. It's very general with the demographic information. Cause it's basically only to be used for redistricting and based on the confidentiality of the people who have submitted the data, we don't include that in the database, in the population database. It's just basic, raw numbers. LUL No, I understand. Just because we have in this island so many retirees and so on, but concentrated in different places, the voting population, as opposed to the total population, could be varied district by district. ROSENBROCK: Oh, yes. Yes. We might get sent that data —it's in there. It just it's in ranges. See, you don't want to be able to identify any minority group, or target group, with the redistricting data. All you want to do with the redistricting data is redistrict. And, if you have block counts and you have one Chinese person in the block, then that pretty much identifies that person's information. So, we don't attach anything more than the count and I think there's a general reference, and I think maybe by Census tract of the ages. HUSTACE: Mr. Chair if I may? KOSSOW: Go ahead. HUSTACE: Mr. Rosenbrock, could you speak at all to the —any concerns of the data that you might have? The integrity of the data, as we've all witnessed over the last year in concerns with the Census being collected and if there's any sort of expeditious delivery of the data if there are concerns about that too. You alluded to a particular State suing the Federal government (Yes.) for delivery of that data. Could you speak to just the overall integrity of the data that you believe to be there? ROSENBROCK: Well, I think the problem existed when the former administration wanted to determine if they could remove non -citizens from the data. And, I think maybe the Census Bureau, because the guy who runs it is appointed, pushed it on down the line but that was going to be the way they went and then the Supreme Court told them, you can't take those folks out. And, so now they're rushing to put those folks back in, and make sure the data is more representative of what the former administration was wanting. Now, Dwayne and I had this problem back in 2001. There were several folks who wanted to have non-resident aliens removed from the data. And, uh, we went down to at that time it was IMS—and we asked the guy, how do we locate these people. And, he said, I don't know. You know, they're not —first of all, if they are undocumented, they're undocumented. And, second of all, if they have a green card, they can go Pia