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AA: It’s just because we have DOCARE here because they do the enforcement of the area but we <br />want to be clear to the public of what the rules and regulations is up at 16 Mile Marker because <br />there’s a lot of – besides the Vog that rolls in there’s a lot of gray area up there. <br /> <br />?: Well, according to the letter of the law – 130-5 you do not need a hunting license to shoot on a <br />shooting range. But Mile Marker 16 is still designated as a restricted watershed. Am I correct? <br /> <br />AF: You’re correct in that – therein lies the biggest problem as a protected watershed you can’t go <br />into the area without either a hunting license or a watershed permit – that’s in the Hawai’i <br />Administrative Rules – 1315 and that’s the rules that govern the restricted watershed. And, as I <br />said, you have to have a permit to go in or a hunting license to make any entry into the area <br />where the range sits. The range itself has not yet been designated with a designated access that <br />you would have to have to get around that question. <br /> <br />AA: I see what he’s saying. <br /> <br />TN: Abraham? Teresa… <br /> <br />AA: Yes… Go ahead Teresa… <br /> <br />TN: Administrative rules are not laws so we can put in an admin request for an exemption. <br /> <br />AF: Well, you could maybe do something like that but that’s got to go through Forestry & Wildlife. <br />Someone needs to make contact with one of the – I guess it would be Steve Bergfield is the <br />initial person you would want to talk to but… <br /> <br />AA: Well, he’s her tonight so Steve you want to chime in on this too Steve? <br /> <br />TN: Abraham – GMAC can write a letter for a letter of exemption because administrative rules are <br />not State laws. <br /> <br />AA: Right… <br /> <br />TN: I’m sorry, this is Teresa… <br /> <br />?: Say, Abraham, it’s something that we can discuss with DOCARE on what their requirements are <br />for entering the range… <br /> <br />AA: Steve – sorry – you like state your name – sorry… <br /> <br />SB: Steve Bergfield – Division of Forestry and Wildlife… So the restricted watershed permits are <br />required to enter the watershed – if you have a hunting license that is part of your hunting <br />license is the restricted watershed permit. If we’re gonna by-pass that process then that’s <br />something we would have to talk to DOCARE and Hunter Ed about. <br /> <br />AA: So can we move forward with that? <br /> <br />SB: I can discuss with Andy and \[unclear\] and Darren and see what decision is on that. <br />8 <br /> <br /> <br />