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years and now there is a ban for 10 years. I don't see your 30/30 <br />scoping meeting looking into the areas of possibility of abundance. So <br />is there a way that I've asked to be contacted previously and no one <br />has contacted me, so we can bring these issues to the table. So we <br />can say why isn't the State DLNR DAR division looking into abundance? <br />Instead of bag limits, size limits, slot limits, and rules and regulations <br />that are hard to police? And we don't have open markets, you have a <br />few in China Town on Oahu, but nowhere near the sizes of the open <br />markets in Asia, in the Philippine's, in Taiwan, in Singapore, their <br />markets are full with fish, our isn't, we don't have that commercial <br />market. So I don't understand the DAR division, tell us, we <br />recreational fisherman need to be policed, need to be license, we need <br />bag limits, we don't have a market. It boggles my mind. <br />Abraham: Teresa could you wrap it up. <br />Teresa: So I would love to have a meeting with you Troy if you're in Hilo I would <br />be glad to go to Hilo, and talk more about this, because it just boggles <br />my mind that DLNR isn't being more responsible to its people. <br />Troy: Be happy to meet with you, and we can talk about all of this, and that <br />is what we want. We want to have an open discussion. Even if it is in <br />opposition, you know, um or criticisms of what we are doing, we want <br />to hear everything. And we should hear everything. Um but to your <br />point, we don't we aren't signaling out fisherman. We would be <br />signaling out ourselves, because a lot of us are fisherman <br />ourselves... our staff ... we're not saying, we're not trying to point or <br />intent to, make it seem like we're pointing fingers to fisherman, like <br />hey, you guys are the problems, and this is why we are proposing these <br />things, there is a whole bunch of factors that come into play. You <br />know with these resources and why we are seeing decreasing number <br />of certain species. So again we want to do our part as fisherman or you <br />know as management as something that is part of our responsibility is <br />to be able to manage fisheries, ----- is it okay if I ----- <br />Abraham: You can continue... But it is one of the things we can do. Of course like <br />I mentioned before, the rules aren't, we want to support, sustainable <br />23 <br />