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VITOUSEK: So there are no outside factors that prevent them from building because of the high <br /> amount of building in the area, so the decision not to build is because of lack of financial <br /> resources on the part of the developer? <br /> FUKE: I would say, to some extent, I think that could have affected it, you know, I don't think <br /> that was a sole decision. But it's just like saying that, you know, say, you've got like $500,000 <br /> to build a home, and then after you have your design and then oops—even like trying to build <br /> today, you know, because of the cons-you know, the material cost is like exuberantly high, you <br /> know, what's your original budget and your actual ability to build is, you know, becomes two <br /> separate matters. And so I think that was the dilemma that the applicant faced, you know, at that <br /> time. <br /> VITOUSEK: I'm just, you know, I'm just reflecting what's stated in our background about the <br /> reasons that are outside their control. So the next reason that's stated is the volcanic eruption in <br /> 2018. Do you know the date that the time extension for Plan Approval was granted by the <br /> county? <br /> FUKE: Yeah, the Plan Approval was granted like shortly after they were actually granted in <br /> July of 2015 and September of 2015. Now the SMA was granted, you know, became effective in <br /> March of 2015. And the fact that, they, you know, within a span of six months, they pulled the <br /> trigger to do all of that, you know, it was indicative of their desire to get something on the <br /> ground as soon as possible. <br /> VITOUSEK: Got you, thanks. And I stated my question wrong; I'm asking when, if they are <br /> aware of when the administrative time extension for the SMA in order for them to attain Plan <br /> Approval was granted in 2018. <br /> FUKE: Yeah, it was granted in 2018, and I believe like when the former project manager <br /> requested for an extension, I think that the eruption had already occurred, and that kind of <br /> dampened some of the overall market. <br /> VITOUSEK: Okay, so the extension occurred on September 4, 2018, which is the same date that <br /> the eruption stopped, September 4, 2018, so they received the extension after the Kilauea <br /> eruption had ceased. So <br /> FUKE: I think that was purely coincidental. I don't think that was by design, but nevertheless <br /> VITOUSEK: (Indiscernible–simultaneous speech) <br /> FUKE: leading up to that, you know, understandably, you know, the overall real estate market <br /> for the Island of Hawaii was really, it sagged. <br /> VITOUSEK: Do you know what the changes in the real estate market were between 2017 and <br /> 2018? <br /> FUKE: Specifically no,just on the generic level. <br /> 15 <br /> EXHIBIT D <br />