2021-07-15 Leeward Exh D (Amend SMA 286)

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JACKSON: I would suggest instead of using the wording "to preserve view planes," maybe ,'minimize obstruction." That way, that's kind of the middle ground; they can still allow some view planes to the sea, but then also have a little bit of building, maybe like a roofline. VITOUSEK: Commissioner Yates. YATES: No, I don't think so, because once that building is put in place, there is no preserving the view. I agree with Commissioner Vitousek that you have to preserve the view plane. There is a lot of space, I mean, if you look at the plan, there is a lot of space here, even if you have to take down that building a story, you know. Because once the building goes up, too late, you can't change it. VITOUSEK: I mean, I feel like that there is a lot of space on the property, that they can accomplish their objectives still, you know, they can move things around, they can, they can do it. I mean, they have, I'm sure they've got high quality engineers to design, architects, they can make a beautiful project happen while preserving a beautiful environment for the kupuna alike. KERN: Mr. Chair, I want to try to chime in real quick. I mean the concept is to mitigate visual impacts, right? From the Life Care center, right? It doesn't mean that you are not going to see a roof, it doesn't mean that you are going to have unobstructed views. I think there is opportunity for the buildings to potentially be sited there, maybe with some adjustments; I think there is a lot more investigation that will probably need to occur to really understand the true impact. But I think the essence there is, you know, to mitigate the visual impact to the Life Care Center. But I think it could go a whole other way with what you are saying by way of relocating buildings, because they may not need to be relocated. We don't know. I think that's where we are lacking a little bit of information there. So how do we, how do we find the middle ground of mitigating the visual impact to allow them to have a view, right? VITOUSEK: Yeah, I think DEFRANCO: Mike, what about"protect view planes within reason?" VAN PERNIS: What's "reason?" VITOUSEK: What's the reason, what is a reasonable amount to protect the view plane? Commissioner DeFranco. DEFRANCO: Yeah, I just think that, I think that Mr. Kern made a very good point. I mean, and when they do the study of it, it could be that all you are seeing is the top of the roof. VITOUSEK: Terrific. Then it's DEFRANCO: I think that would be okay, right, Faye? I mean, but- 30 ut30 EXHIBIT D