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VAN PERNIS: The Planning Director I think was still advised to accept that testimony and <br /> accept their recommendation. In most bankruptcy cases the project does not go ahead. So, my <br /> question— <br /> REPLOGLE: Excuse me, one moment. Yes, Ms. DeFranco? You're muted. You're still <br /> muted. Go ahead Mr. Van Pernis. <br /> VAN PERNIS: Thank you. Can I be heard? Am I heard? <br /> DARROW: Yes. <br /> REPLOGLE: Yes, yes, your heard. <br /> VAN PERNIS: Thank you. <br /> DEFRANCO: Sorry, I went offline. But I think that, I think right now we are at a point of <br /> asking questions, not making comments, or having discussions. Is this correct? Am I, so, what <br /> is happening now is please ask your questions, then they are going to be answered, this isn't a <br /> point of discussion or comments or viewpoint, is that right? <br /> SCHLUETER: That's correct. <br /> REPLOGLE: It's my understanding and the Planning Director has answered Mr. Van Pernis's <br /> question. <br /> DEFRANCO: Thank you. <br /> REPLOGLE: Do you have another question Mr. Van Pernis, or do you wish to move along? <br /> Okay, anybody else? Mr. Clarkson? You're muted. Okay. <br /> CLARKSON: Yes, I have a question for our Counsel, Ms. Hall. When matters go from the <br /> Planning Commission to the Courts, what is the format of the record, what format are the <br /> documents that goes to the Courts in? How do they receive the substantial records that might go <br /> to an appeal? <br /> HALL: The Courts are doing E-Filing, so, we do send electronic files. The Record on Appeal is <br /> usually very voluminous, they do not want boxes of transcripts, so, yes, everything is done <br /> electronically. <br /> CLARKSON: And that's in, image format or a PDF or what kind of files are they? <br /> HALL: Usually PDF. <br /> CLARKSON: And how are those generated? <br /> HALL: What do you mean by generated? <br /> 4 <br /> EXHIBIT B (DRAFT) <br />