2021-02-23 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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somebody gets hurt — and that's the only reason why they require a hunting license. RH: It is not a hunting area. The Land Board said it took it out of being a Forest Reserve and turned it in to quote "a shooting range." KU: Yeah... See that's where the grey area is because it's still considered... RH: It's not grey at all... KU: It is... I not gonna get into any arguments but if you want a real good answer talk to DLNR, DOFAW — I don't know — maybe Ian, can you elaborate on it...? AA: Yeah, Abraham, that's why we had Darren Ogura to speak on Mile Marker 16, but he's not here right now so, Ian if you like respond to Keoni's question that would be great. IC: OK. I can tell you what I've been told... It is supposed to be an Executive Ordered out of the Forest Reserve or Restricted Watershed — if that process hasn't happened it still lies in within Forest Reserve. But it's kind of a moot point because if you're shooting there, you're already breaking just randomly shooting you're not following Forest Reserve rules and you're shooting during the week so it doesn't matter — this is what I've been told and I don't have a piece of paper to back it up, but the Attorney General told Darren, I believe, that it's not — you can't enforce having to have a hunting license — there's nothing to say that you have to have that — so called DOCARE about it and they said that it's on the rule — and I said well we just made those rules as a guideline for the range so this is why when people call and ask me — I direct them to Division of Conservation and Resource Enforcement because I don't cite people — that's not my job — [unclear]. I tell 'em to call DOCARE which is our enforcement arm to get the scoop straight from them 'cause they're the ones who would be citing you — I personally don't think there's grounds to stand on for the citation but it's a real pain in the bottom if they take your gun and you have to go back to get it — I just talked to a gentleman who went through that but not at the range so I get mixed stories — whether or not they're actually enforcing that 21