2021-02-23 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Conservation and Resource Enforcement because if I tell you to go up there without a hunting license cause it doesn't make sense to me — I don't want you to get cited — so I was told to send people to Andy Ford and you can ask for him — you guys can try to call the head of DOCARE — I think that's Lino [Kamakau] still — but I stopped giving out an answer because I feel like I get multiple answers and it's not really my jurisdiction to enforce so I don't want to get people in trouble. AA: OK. Anymore questions or comments for Ian or Mike? No? Sorry, Abraham, District 5, so Mike on this shooting range issue — I strongly support if it was to move this thing forward for several reasons — one is in the Legislature there's a bill that's going through and Todd Yukutake is probably gonna talk about it in a little bit but it's SB 532 1 think and it's a self-defense law that they're trying to introduce and with all these people in the state or just on our island that's acquired all these weapons and like you guys say — they're not properly trained so if you go back to if someone comes to the point in time where they actually have to use it — and they don't know how to use it — they might hurt themselves or some family member before they even hurt the person that they're intending to hurt that's affecting them. ?: Can I say something on that — for the understanding there of that law for the self-defense. As you know, we've had several carjacking and other instances on the Island — a criminal is not going to abide by the law but you guys on the Commission and those of us that are law abiding citizens that you know registered our weapons, have training and everything else, but we're not allowed to carry them to protect ourselves... AA: Right and that's going back to — you train people. I'm just talking about we need places for the untrained people because now it's kinda like more dangerous for them — themselves — in any type of issue or situation. ?: So also too with this self-defense thing and then trying to get a range and everything would that also fall in line with the Young vs. Hawaii lawsuit that's going on right now? AA: Is that the concealed carry one? ?: Oh, yeah... That's open carry... 23