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Kanalu - Yeah nothing that I am aware of as far as active going in to try and <br />reduce those field loads, right now we are just trying for now open up these field <br />breaks to stop anything from spreading. But that is something we can discuss but <br />it’s not something we haven’t discussed about it. <br />Brian - No other discussion about opening and getting some sheep in there and to <br />do a really good job on fire prevention, like we’ve heard before on that you know <br />the fires will do a lot more damage than a sheep would ever do, and you know we <br />have been over this a thousand times on the sheep has no barren on the Palila <br />population or the Palila population will go up instead of going down in <br />relationship to the sheep population on Mauna Kea. <br />Kanalu - Until that court order is lifted our hands are kind of bound. So we have to <br />get rid of the sheep. <br />Brian - ok you guys have no idea of you guys actually filing suit and say look, we <br />have scientific evidence this is detrimental to the Palila bird even if we don’t get a <br />fire the smoke inhalation is going to cause irreparable to the bird’s lungs if it <br />doesn’t kill them from smoke inhalation even the fire doesn’t get there. <br />Kanalu - I am not aware of any plans for us, my agency or our lawyers to try and <br />stop that or reverse that ruling or ask for them to say enough already. I am not <br />aware of anything like that. <br />Brian – Okay I appreciate that thank you sir <br />Kanalu – Yeah, no problem <br />Nani (Pogline) – I have a question from the public <br />Abraham - Go ahead Nani <br />Nani – Thank You, Nani here, so Kanalu the wide fire breaks mulching disturbing <br />ground like that, does that derail at all or anyone about storm erosion opening up <br />to for storm erosion? <br />Kanalu – Yeah that’s why we are not planning on taking it down to bare minimal <br />soil and just allow for you know shorter vegetation which maintain it short, so we <br />did a trial run, maybe three years ago now, where we did take it down and then <br />used herbicides to get rid of the vegetation completely and that was just on the <br />4 <br /> <br /> <br />