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8 <br />Rep. Lowen thanked the Commission and left her email addressin the chat before logging off. <br />2. General discussion on transfer station actions to reduce costs/increase revenue and <br />identify additional information to be provided by DEM. (Burns/Adams) <br />Chair Adams began the discussion regarding transfer stations and finding ways to save money. <br />We already heard discussion about reducing the number of days. One of the concerns is that <br />we are spending a lot of money on moving trash around our County. We have transfer stations <br />all over the place. We have now closed our East Hawai‘i Sanitary Landfill so now everything is <br />being trucked over to the West Hawai‘i Sanitary Landfill, and how can we do it? <br />One of the things the Solid Waste Advisory Commission did in terms of looking at how you can <br />make the transfer stations more efficient, and how they work. Unfortunately what we <br />recommended was you ought to do an operational efficiency analysis to see where the <br />opportunities are. But it takes money and it takes staff to be able to do that. But the things that <br />we think are opportunities to reduce costs would be to do education. But we do have issues <br />with education. Recycling is available for some things, and the reuse centers exist, so you can <br />put materials there. And then perhaps most importantly is to reduce the amount of <br />contamination that is occurring in the recycle bins, as it is. <br />Another recommendation was to look at how we could get more compactors, so we can squish <br />the recyclables in the containers, which means fewer trips for the trucks to pick up those <br />containers. We’ve got a few compactorsscattered around at transfer stations, but not a lot, <br />and they break all the time. One of the things that we recommended is weshould allow small <br />businesses to recycle at transfer stations. Officially we want to reduce the amount of waste <br />going to the landfill. One way to look at a potential revenue source could be to collect a fee <br />from the small businesses, especially when they are dumping trash, but mostly to encourage <br />them to do recycling. And frankly it will save time and money if we can reduce the operating <br />hours or close some of the stations, or change when you can use atransfer station.Itmay not <br />necessarily be going to one day a week. It may be five days instead of a whole week that a <br />transfer station is open. But we’ve got issues with labor costs and that is one way to better staff <br />the transfer stations, and also to allow some of the staff to get involved in education and <br />making sure people are throwing things in the right bins. And again, using the Reuse Centers <br />more, making sure that they can hold more and are easily accessible and known out there that <br />the Reuse Centers exist, but also not giving them your trash that you really shouldn’t donate for <br />reuse. Those are some ways that we think we could reuse costs and generate some revenue, <br />but it is going to be waiting, and it means somebody has got to pay for a study. <br /> <br />One of the other options that we mentioned is that idea of Pay As You Throw. This is where you <br />charge a fee for waste that is higher than the fee you give for recycling. Right now at the <br />transfer stations, it’s free and it’s not going to be easy to establish a pay for operations at the <br />transfer stations, because somebody has to collect the fee, or make sure you paid a fee. For <br />example, one of the ideas is we would sell recycle bags, at the grocery stores or wherever, and <br /> <br />8 <br /> replowen@capitol.hawaii.gov <br />13 <br /> <br /> <br />