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Director Mansour said that Mr. Warren brought up a good point. When the Department was <br />working on the deadline, the EPA agreed to give them the same deadline for Pahala, with the <br />idea is this is just the overall deadline, but they were willing to negotiate and extend the time. <br />They gave an umbrella type of date of 2023, and he had put a note to himself to follow up and <br />look at the records. He needs to find out where the 2027 came in by talking to the consultant <br />and staff. His understanding was it was never negotiated, they gave us one drop -dead date. We <br />are cognizant of the deadline of N5'51ehu of 2023, he said. <br />Director Mansour said he would address it in the next Director's report. <br />d. Residential hauler fee credit issue discussed at RAWEEMC 6/15/21 <br />Director Mansour said he had resolved that issue. We had a meeting with the haulers about a <br />month and a half ago when the letter went out. There was some confusion about the difference <br />between tipping fees and residential credits. The credit was part of our existing code but during <br />the last revision it was omitted. And now we need to — the reason it was omitted, he still didn't <br />understand. We cannot charge commercial tipping fees for residential waste. If we are going to <br />start penalizing the people that decide to hire a hauler to take their waste to a landfill, then we <br />need to have a fee that goes across the board for all residential waste. So we had continued <br />giving the credit, and we are going to set up meetings with the haulers on a quarterly basis, to <br />figure out and at least offset our administrative costs. Because it does cost us to administer <br />these private hauler businesses, and the County cannot take on that cost because we have to <br />recoup that cost somehow. We are going to be talking to garbage haulers about moving <br />forward, streamlining the process, and figuring out how we can potentially expand the <br />collection. If everybody is getting the residential credit, you can just pay for the garbage to be <br />hauled from your house. That will create better economic growth for the island because it will <br />create more jobs and more incentives, and allow us to look at the transfer stations. The director <br />had staff run the numbers. We didn't have any idea how much the transfer stations were <br />costing per ton. Some of the stations cost us almost $500 per ton to operate, which is totally <br />insane, when our actual tipping fee is $116 per ton. So for a business model, it doesn't add up. <br />So we definitely have to look at different operational and business models moving forward. He <br />looks forward to filling the planner position, so they can assist us with sitting down and <br />improving the business model. Currently we have and how we can improve, and making sure <br />we are staying within industrial practices. The cost per ton at our landfill is about $244, which is <br />almost twice the amount that we charge. So we are definitely in the negative and have to look <br />at it from a landfill transfer station point of view of cost versus the services we provide. <br />e. Impacts of Council -approved budget in FY 2021-22 for DEM, including life <br />cycle assessment contract and funding a contractor to look into wastewater <br />funding alternatives. <br />Chair Adams asked whether Director Mansour got the money from the Council budget to hire <br />someone to look at wastewater funding. <br />Director Mansour said we did not. <br />IV <br />