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b. Discuss the Predator Trapping Program. <br /> <br />Kanalu – What would you like me to talk about? <br />Abraham- Our friend Richard Hoeflinger had some comments on it, and I know <br />you guys had a meeting with him so would like to brush us up on that? While I <br />look for his email. <br />Kanalu - Sure we had a sit down with Dick he had express his concerns, about the <br />trapping that if there was any level of incidental take of other, I guest, none target <br />take of game birds rather than what our targets is of mongoose and cats. I <br />presented our game bird survey that we did with the hunting public, assist us with <br />their dogs the preliminary result of those the population of Erckels on the <br />mountain was somewhere of 7,000 – 14,000. And so, I wasn’t stressing out too <br />much eleven (11) Erckels in a year being taken by accident in the traps. In the <br />end, I guess the end results of our meeting was would I committed to Dick that I <br />would explore if there are other ways that we can trap to minimize that take of <br />Erckels while still being effective taking of taking of 90 cats and 70 mongooses <br />something like that with a total of 150 cats and mongoose together and 11 <br />Ecrkels, so for me I mean, we don’t live in a perfect world, in a perfect world, we <br />would kill no Erckels. But because we think we have 7,000 to 14,000 Erckles. <br />Plus, we were hunting Erckles. Last year somewhere about 2,500 -3,000 Erckels <br />were being harvested. Honestly, I wouldn’t be stressing out too much of the 11 <br />Erckles being taken in our traps. But I did commit to explore option that we might <br />have to minimize that number of Erckels being taken in traps. I talk to the <br />coordinator for the Mauna Kea Forest restoration program his name is Kala <br />AhSing, we were kicking around the idea of some of the traps moving them up <br />into the trees, getting them off the ground, which would definitely, reduce our <br />take of Erckels, but also reduce our take of cats. Cats are super wary, and I think <br />this was done in the past. We’re thinking trying something like that, and just take <br />a subset of our traps and see what effects of the take cats and take of Erckles. I <br />had some conversation with some other biologist, about things that we can do <br />but, we haven’t come up with any other solutions then that yet, but I am, we are <br />working on it. <br />Stanley – Kanalu, get all that PVC pipes up there…you guys not using that <br />anymore? <br />9 <br /> <br /> <br />