2021-09-09 Redistricting Commission minutes (2nd Session)

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HUSTACE: Well just as a geographer myself, you know we’ve been opt to use those particular boundaries, right? Those roads, those ridgelines, those streams, and yet the blocks are deviating from those boundaries. JONES: You have to use the census blocks. That’s what gets moved between districts. So a census block could contain multiple streets. They are different shapes. Like I said, most often, they follow a block like particular down in Hilo. But as you get into more rural areas, they quite often follow ridgelines, sometimes follow streams. But each one has a population, sometimes it’s zero, right? Again, in the more remote areas where there is no population. And there are blocks drawn but the population will be shown as zero. KOSSOW and HUSTACE: Thank you. JONES: Sure. Any other questions? KOSSOW: Mr. Lopez. LOPEZ: Yes. Thank you, Chair. As a pool of curiostiy for me, for those that are Hawaiʻi residents, that are near to long-term incarcerated here or on the mainland, are they included in the census? And where are they included? Place of residence or present location? Can you speak to that? JONES: Well I don’t know. We have not looked at that in terms of breaking out specifically the prison populations. So, no, I’m sorry I don’t know the answer to that. LOPEZ: Okay, thank you. JONES: Anything else? FORD: Mr. Chairman? KOSSOW: Is that Ms. Ford? FORD: Yes, Sir, it is. Are we allowed as the public members—are we allowed to ask questions of Royce? KOSSOW: Mr. Kauka? (No response.) FORD: I’m sorry. I don’t know if I got an answer. Is the public allowed to ask Royce questions at this time? KOSSOW: I think we’re going to wait till the fourth, after the fourth agenda item, and then you can ask questions at that time. FORD: Thank you. 13