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<br /> <br />The last thing I’d like to say at this point and time, is what happened in 2011. In 2011, an <br />illegal plan was designed. I’m sorry. In 2001, an illegal plan was designed. A group of us <br />challenged that plan because it went over 10 percent. Not much, but it violated the 10 <br />percent rule, and so, we sued. We had to sue the County. We have to sue to get the <br />Commission’s to do the right things. Of course, that Commission refused to do it. So, we <br />took it to the local court, and then they said, “Oh, it doesn’t look too bad to me.” We <br />took it to the State Supreme Court who admitted it was an illegal plan. They actually said <br />those words, “It’s illegal, but it’s only,” and I quote, “a little bit illegal and so we’re <br />gonna let it stand.” That little, tiny flaw in the plan cost Puna a second council seat that <br />they deserved in 2001. For 10 years, until the 2011 Commission fixed the problem. It’s so <br />important that you follow the rules and that you don’t deviate just because you want to <br />deviate something when it’s not necessary. Puna was disenfranchised from having a <br />second council seat and while that won’t happen this time, I give you that example as <br />what can go wrong with a teensy-weensy little flaw. That’s not legal. I’d also like to <br />have— <br /> <br />KAUKA: Ms. Ford, excuse me, three minutes have passed. If you could, please <br />summarize. <br /> <br />FORD: Thank you very much. I want to kind of end this by thanking the Chairperson for <br />allowing the public to ask questions as we go along so we don’t have to go all the way <br />back to the beginning and drive everybody crazy. I really appreciate it and it’s going to <br />be really important that we find out about those roads that have been covered by lava for <br />the entire Commission, and for the public, as soon as possible ‘cause it is going to impact <br />how we design some roads in the Puna area. Because it’s not about designing the roads <br />on what was in past, or what will be in the future, for instance, is there going to get a new <br />road or a highway? We’ve got to design this on what exists there today. So, it’s very <br />important that those lava covered roads be identified. Thank you very much for your <br />time. Thank you, Commissioners, and good luck. <br /> <br />The last thing I want to say is, Commissioners, before you start taking these plans and <br />just toss it from the pubic and tossing them out because you don’t like the way they look, <br />start designing your own maps first, before you start looking at any of the public maps. <br />Do your own, and you’ll find out how difficult it is. That’s number one. And, number <br />two, you’re the only one representing your district, and you’re going to have to convince <br />the other Commissioners to go along with you. So, please start doing this design work <br />really fast. You’re going to have to spend a lot of time doing it, but it’s very important. <br />Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman. I yield. <br /> <br />CHUCK FLAHERTY <br /> <br />KAUKA: Thank you, Ms. Ford. Our next testifier is Mr. Chuck Flaherty, followed by <br />Mr. Jacob Aki. Mr. Flaherty, you may begin. You may unmute yourself. <br /> <br />FLAHERTY: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Can you hear me? <br /> <br /> 32 <br /> <br />