2021-03-02 HCHA Approved Minutes

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HCHA meeting March 2, 2021 Kanealii-Kleinfelder: Okay, thank you. And then just touching back on the program income again, it looks like I'm just breaking this down, there's one section on page 10 that talks about the program income, the grantee, that's the County of Hawai `i, correct, may transfer program income to its annual CDBG program before close out of the grant that generated the program income, and then we can transfer that, looks like out of the DR side and back into the regular CDBG, is that correct? Le: You know honestly, the specific mechanics of how these provisions are put in, we haven't quite thought through yet because we haven't been planning for program income, so, you know, from my experience we generally do not blend our CDBG that OHCD manages and these disaster recovery dollars but, you know, you called something that we will kind of take a hard look at in terms of what this will actually mean on an accounting and annual grant close out bases. But generally, I think, it's my understanding that these funds aren't blended. Kanealii-Kleinfelder: Yeah, that was my thought too but then I noticed that, you know, they can be dropped back into the CDBG, it looks like or at least the five percent of the program income can, which is an interesting tie but at the end of the close out of the grant that generated the program income, I just thought that was an interesting note. Le: It is, let me dig into it, make sure I fully understand the mechanics how it works and practice as well. Kanealii-Kleinfelder: And then flood insurance, is that applied to all of Puna or is that just applied to what was lost during the eruption? Le: So in terms of these projects that are currently being proposed, the buyout program and the relocation services, flood insurance were based on the flood insurance rate maps so even though the eruption clearly changed our topography and our land, the maps that existed prior to May 3rd 2018 still remain quote, unquote in effect. For us, there's really kind of two considerations, for many disasters flooding is the destructive impact, right, whether it be homes or infrastructures being washed away, if any of the infrastructures being rebuilt with federal funds than flood basically there's requirements to carry flood insurance but also any reconstruction must mitigate against flood risk based on the, you know, where you fall in or out of the flood maps. For this disaster, was not a flood related one and so we don't need to think about elevating homes, you know, three feet above the base line elevation. Kanealii-Kleinfelder: That's why I asked. Page 10 of 19