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DARROW: That's our understanding. I don't know to—maybe Robyn can address the extent of <br /> the channelization project I would think it would be pretty extreme, given a flood zone on the <br /> property. <br /> MATSUMOTO: Yeah, so, Commissioner DeFranco, the applicant, the property owner had put <br /> in a CLOMR, which is a conditional letter of map revision, with FEMA, so they have a permit <br /> for doing work in these flood zones. And, yeah, it's a, it's a lot of material. The last application <br /> I saw, it, overall was like over 100,000 cubic yards of material that they are deepening the <br /> channel. So they are aware that if they are going to do work on the other driveway, you know, <br /> they are going to have to either get another conditional letter or they are going to have to do what <br /> we call a no-rise where it's approved by an engineer, they have to hire a licensed civil engineer <br /> that's saying that the work they are going to do isn't going to create any additional rise in the <br /> flow of, you know, the floodwaters. <br /> VITOUSEK: Commissioner Yates. <br /> YATES: Yeah, I'm, I'm concerned with all of this talk going back and forth and reading, you <br /> know, the violations, etcetera, etcetera, that says that they shouldn't be doing any of these things. <br /> So we are talking just disregarding all of these things that was, you know, all of the, you know, <br /> the letters that said they shouldn't be doing this. And my big concern for this is to have that <br /> little gym-looking place over there is so close to where the water could go by, and it looks so <br /> unsafe. And, I mean, I'm not against the gym or anything like that; I'm just thinking, is it safe? <br /> I mean, are we allowing this person to do whatever even though they've been cited on numerous <br /> occasions, and we are still looking into it? I'm kind of confused about this. <br /> VITOUSEK: Okay, at this point, if we have questions for the county staff, we can ask and try to <br /> get some answers from them, but I think we'll have to hold off on discussions on it until we have <br /> a motion on the floor. <br /> YATES: Okay. <br /> VITOUSEK: If you do have any questions, now is definitely the time to ask. And then we'll <br /> have a presentation by the applicant as well, and you can ask more questions than. <br /> YATES: Well, my first question, it says to cease and desist, but it's continuing. So they were <br /> allowed to do all of these things without any permitting? That's my question, I mean, how come. <br /> VITOUSEK: Good question. Is there an answer for that question, Deputy Director? <br /> DARROW: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Normally, in a situation like this believe me, this isn't <br /> the first time this has happened in the county and it's not going to be the last, we issue numerous <br /> zoning violations throughout the county—and one of the requirements is to cease and desist. <br /> One thing that wasn't put in the NOVs for this particular one is one, is the alternative, you know, <br /> there has to be an alternative, and that wasn't put in these NOVs, which should have been put in. <br /> And that is that you either cease and desist or you get permitted. And you go through the <br /> process. These particular landowners and applicants had received the violation notice, they've <br /> 6 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />