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the council district person to try to address that much geography. So that's another nut to <br /> crack for me. I yield. Thank you. <br /> KOSSOW: Mr. Hustace. <br /> HUSTACE: Thank you, Mr. Lopez, for pointing that one out. I was looking at this, even <br /> the current template where we have Council District 5 as over 11 percent, right? This is <br /> mapping. So, the two districts that I've struggled with the most are the districts that <br /> have—definitely District 1 is one of`em. It's just where people live, right? It's a <br /> challenge of where people have lived, or where people have moved to, and where <br /> development is happening, that it's going to drive some of these changes going forward <br /> too. It's assuming this constant back and forth, and there are areas where you're very <br /> familiar with where there isn't that development, there aren't those places people are <br /> moving to. And I think, Ms. Lui, you see with District 1 for sure where there's kind of <br /> wide openness between communities and there isn't. Especially with Council District 6 <br /> too, right? We had testifiers say that we don't like traversing across this huge district that <br /> represents too many distinct areas on the west and the east side. Unfortunately, the <br /> problem that I've had in correcting or fixing or adjusting the issues with Council 6, is that <br /> I've made it even bigger. It covered the whole half, southern half of the island. It's an <br /> issue of, the communities are very distinct. They're far apart from each other. There isn't <br /> as much urban growth as we've seen in that area as we see in our core centers so there's a <br /> big challenge there. Thank you. <br /> BATH: It's Stephanie. <br /> KOSSOW: Ms. Bath. <br /> BATH: So, I understand we're talking about the approaches that we took. In part, the <br /> approach that I took first was, I looked at the map. I thought about the people and the <br /> community because that's who we're serving. I started with District 5 because that's <br /> where I live in upper Puna, well, middle upper Puna. And I immediately looked at <br /> District 4 which I polarize too because of my community service and during the flows, I <br /> was involved with Civil Defense. So, I kind of grounded out down there and got to meet <br /> the communities and actually knocked on doors to advise people so I kind of knew the <br /> area. When I looked at District 5, I immediately saw that Kalapana and that area where <br /> the people polarized towards Council District 4, they come and go through Pahoa at the <br /> very least, that's in my district and that felt really not right knowing the people down <br /> there. There's also that big crack along the rift that geographically isolates us from that <br /> area of District 5. So I looked at that and I was playing with the deviation and the <br /> numbers and I took that one hunk off. It looks like, if it's a boot, it's like the toe area and <br /> I gave it to District 4 which just skyrocketed their numbers. But it felt right to me, it felt <br /> right for the people. Then I moved into Ka`u, which I'm also familiar with and kind of <br /> played with that but the numbers were still really high in District 4. When we're talking <br /> about people in communities, I think it's really important during this redistricting to get <br /> that one right, especially with the changes. I looked to Council District 3 to try to figure <br /> that one out and I couldn't move anything. I ended up taking Volcano and the upper Puna <br /> 27 <br />