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western side of the Kalapana Road, would you put them with the forest reserve as well? <br /> Or do they stay with the mauka portions? <br /> BATH: I tried to bring my map up so that I could have it in front of me for this <br /> discussion. I'm still having an issue with it. It's not here. If you can give me a minute, I <br /> can bring it up and see. I think you mentioned one little piece, if when you clicked on <br /> Wao Kele o Puna, that it went with that area. Is that correct? <br /> HUSTACE: No. Well, it's a separate—so the Wao Kele o Puna Forest Reserve is an <br /> entire monstrous census block, in my mind. I just want to state for the record that I've <br /> come across too many census blocks that are way too big and have way too many <br /> problems that I've documented on my own. But this is an issue where if you have a <br /> census block that has census blocks within it, that should not be allowable. Like there <br /> should have been a break in the census line, in my own personal. I know it's a forest <br /> reserve, I know there's specifics about it, but there are other locations that we could <br /> probably talk about today. So, I was just curious. You have this floating census block off <br /> of Kaimu-Makena Homestead Road that has 24 residents. You have a pocket subdivision <br /> off of, the street is One `Ele Road and Upper Puna Road. So, there's this pocket <br /> subdivision that juts out of the western portion of the Kalapana Road. Do those <br /> individuals feel that they should be associated with Kalapana and the more mauka <br /> portion? Or should they be, I'm just putting these questions out there, right? And then <br /> that's one question. The other question is, if you add that mauka portion of Kalapana <br /> along Kapoho Road there, then that's twelve-hundred individuals. The census block <br /> group that is associated with the Wao Kele o Puna Forest Reserve, is another thirteen- <br /> hundred individuals. So, I'm just curious about your process. About if you add so many <br /> of those individuals to Council 4, what did you take away from Council 4 to adjust? <br /> BATH: Thank you. That's a great question. That's one of the reasons why I'm bringing <br /> this up for discussion frankly. I want to apologize. I was multi-tasking. I was listening to <br /> you. I was trying to bring up my map because although I know the area, and I knocked on <br /> doors in the area with Civil Defense during the events, I didn't have keep names of <br /> streets or subdivisions in my mind. So, I'm sorry that I can't help you on that. If you just <br /> give me a minute, I'm trying to <br /> HUSTACE: Yeah. Take your time please. <br /> BATH: You know what, I yield to District 4 for this `cause it's her District that she's <br /> representing so she might know more than I do on that. No? <br /> HUSTACE: I'll welcome any Commissioner as to if you have any thoughts on this. <br /> About making this adjustment to Council 4 and 5 and that boundary down to Kalapana, <br /> and the Wao Kele o Puna Forest there. Any thoughts or troubles that the Commissioners <br /> have had with this process of making those adjustments? <br /> KAUKA: Mr. Vice Chair, this is Dennis in Hilo. I'm sorry to, but just to briefly interrupt, <br /> he is visible there, but I should note for the record that Chair Kossow has joined us. So <br /> 19 <br />