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LUL I guess I feel like this is a big issue for just in terms of fairness. As we have stated <br /> before,just in the history of the United States, districts often like to have prisons there <br /> because they get more votes, more people in their districts, but often they can't even vote. <br /> So I don't know if I should move or something,just that we write some kind of letter <br /> asking that this not happen next time around, since we can't do anything about it this <br /> time. That people be counted that way. I don't know if that can be done at the State level <br /> or whether it's a federal issue or what. Do you have any sense about that? <br /> NAKAMOTO: I'm going to ask Deputy Corporation Counsel Mellon-Lacey to come up <br /> and maybe address that question. <br /> LUL This has been going on since the Three-Fifths Rule for slavery. <br /> NAKAMOTO: Commissioner Lui, my understanding is that there are states, and I'm <br /> sorry I can get this Communication and provide it for the Commission, but there are <br /> states that have adopted this provision and Hawaii is not one of those states. So <br /> therefore, I think that at the State level, if the census data were adjusted, and contrary to <br /> Ms. Ford's statement, I recall when we had the initial training, I believe that Mr. Jones <br /> indicated that to the extent that it was possible, they had disaggregated the student and the <br /> military, non-resident population from the data that we're using. So presumably, <br /> something similar could be done at the State level if that decision were made. I believe <br /> that Ms. Ford was suggesting that this Commission look at making a recommendation on <br /> the order of what you are proposing. <br /> LUL Thank you. So, Vice Chair Hustace, could I make a motion that we draft such a <br /> letter recommending that the State revise its rules in terms of the counting of incarcerated <br /> people? <br /> HUSTACE: I'm going to have to defer to Mr. Kauka and Corporation Counsel. And if <br /> we can throw that on the agenda right now. <br /> LUL Okay. <br /> HUSTACE: It is not an agendized item so I would assume that we need to add it to the <br /> agenda as an item of new business at a future meeting. <br /> MELLON-LACEY: Sorry, Mr. Vice Chair. Yes, that's correct. <br /> HUSTACE: Thank you, Ms. Mellon-Lacey. So yes, Commissioner Lui, we will need to <br /> request that if you'd be so inclined, to request this through the Chair and myself, and <br /> through Mr. Kauka to get this on our next agenda. Would that be possible, Commissioner <br /> Lui? <br /> LUL Yes. <br /> 9 <br />