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and the golf courses that use that recycled water. So it’s not rocket science, but we feel it’s important to state it as part of the process so that water we are creating does not get wasted. Commissioner Robinson asked whether the legislation has to happen before the project gets started, before the funding is there. Your first motion is tohave a policy change in the County, but does that need to happen before the changes take place,or can they be independent of each other? As for the second part of the motion, the funding for the Department, we should consider seeking federal grants for this project from EPA for sustainable water infrastructure, so that there isn’t an immediate stop because that’s a huge cost to their $38 million budget. So if there was funding, does the legislation need to change first, or can it run independent of getting this done? Vice Chair Gaffney proposed them happening simultaneously because it is a chicken-and-egg situation. One cannot happen without the other. Certainly there is going to be an expense involved, but one of the amazing things about where we are right now in history is there is about to be massive amounts of federal money available. So it goes without saying and certainly our Council people and the Mayor are already looking at that source. So we have a huge opportunity to accomplish this important environmental thing at a point where there is federal money available to do just this. The bottom line also is that what we are creating is a system that pays for itself. We sell this water, we don’t give it away. And there is demand for this water because if somebody is watering agolf courseor a large playground area that is part of the housing area, if they can get water for half what it costs them for fresh water, they are going to take the recycled water because it is less expensive. So we are creating system that pays for itself. And there are examples in Hawaii of systems paying for themselves on Oahu. And Maui is in the process of solving the problem that they went to the Supreme Court for by creating a system of recycled water and a distribution system for that. He doesn’t see a reason not to request that the Council move forward with something like this without talking about where the money is going to come from. That’s not really our kuleana, that’s the Council’s kuleana. Commissioner McIntosh was wondering about the second part of the motion that talked about identifying the leaks for the salt that is coming in. He thought the County was working toward remedying that situation, and that it was just going to take time to do that. Vice Chair Gaffney said the County is working to remedy the situation in the sewer pipes that they own, but there has long been a suspicion that the laterals that feed from private property – that would be hotels and larger developments that collect all of their water and move that into the system – that some of those laterals may also be producing infiltration. And the County does not have the right to inspect those laterals. For the most part they are privately owned and on private property. And they do not have the right to charge those private property owners, or to force those private property owners to make the repairs so that infiltration is effectively stopped. That is why the second point is included in the motion. It’s to add to DEM’s tools to stop this infiltration. And this kind of law is already on the books in Maui County and 21