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Counsel said gathering information or listening is fine, but they cannot make a commitment to vote. Chair Adams asked the Vice Chair to do a write up of his proposal for the next meeting. Chair Adams said she was willing to contact Council Member Richards’ office and find out what are the ways that we can further explore Vice Chair Gaffney’s proposal. Deputy Corporation Counsel Salas-Ferguson verified that HRS Chapter 92 allows two members of a board can discuss among themselves and can have someone who is not a board member present, and they can talk about things as long as there is not a commitment to vote. A joint meeting could be possible, he said, but that is something that could be looked into. Chair Adams had discussed an ad hoc committee, but also the board could assign two or more of its members, but less than a quorum, to present, negotiate, or discuss any position that the board has adopted. The Commission could create an ad hoc committee to go to the Council and advise them if it were on the agenda. There are quite a few options, depending on what they want to do and how they want to do it. Chair Adams said she would call Council Member Richards and see how comfortable his Committee would be with meeting or reaching out to the Committee. c. The Commission may establish a permitted interaction group, pursuant to the procedures established in Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §92-2.5(b)(1), to investigate and make recommendations related to its responsibility to advise DEM and the Council on waste reduction. The scope of this group’s investigation may include economic and legislative barriers to collection and processing by private recyclers for wastes currently recycled by the County, and other items such as electronic waste, alkaline batteries, photovoltaic panels, plastics, and other recyclables. Chair Adams relinquished the role of presiding officer to Vice Chair Gaffney tomake a motion. Motion, second and vote: Commissioner Adams made a motion, to which Commissioner Olson seconded, to establish a permitted interaction group, to investigate economic and legislative barriers to the collection and processing by private recyclers for waste currently recycled by the County, and other items such as electronic waste, alkaline batteries, photovoltaic panels, plastics, and other recyclables that we can investigate and understand if there is action to be taken. There was no further discussion. Ayes: 7(Adams, Burns, Fulton, Gaffney, McIntosh, Olson, Robinson); Nays 0; Absent 2 (Cardwell, Hoopii). Motion carried. Acting Chair Gaffney then returned the Chair back to Chair Adams. Chair Adams said she would like Commissioners Cardwell, Hoopii, and herself to comprise the permitted interaction group. This is an investigation, she said. Go talk to whomever you need to talk to. The basic idea would be, find out what is in the way that we can have influence over by going to the Council and identify what are the barriers, either DEM rules or Council legislation. Or maybe it’s going to be at the State level, that really hinders the ability of these private 11