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BATH: Commissioner Bath. Actually, I think that Brenda did include all of Pahoa town <br /> together here. It does look like it. I stand corrected. <br /> LOPEZ: But geographically, point to me where this geography is. I see nothing that says <br /> Pahoa town on the map. You can probably zoom out a little bit so that we could get a <br /> bigger picture. Right here where it says Pahoa Village? <br /> HUSTACE: So, right there where the road bends. Yeah. Right where it bends down. Sort <br /> of that nook in the road where it splits off to Kalapana and Kapoho. <br /> LOPEZ: Okay. I'm looking for that on this map here. Right in there? Where there's a <br /> population of 313? So, in that neighborhood. Okay. <br /> HUSTACE: Yeah, so it's split between the two there. <br /> LOPEZ: Okay. Where it says Pahoa. Alright, thank you. That's close enough. I can go <br /> dive into it. Thank you for that. I yield. <br /> KOSSOW: Mr. Hustace. <br /> HUSTACE: Thanks, Chair. Sorry about that. Some of these challenges, we've all faced <br /> with HPP, you know, well over 10,000 residents in there. I understand the connectivity <br /> issue but we're trying to reach this number of 22,232 and around that, given the <br /> deviation. It's hard with an area so densely populated too. It swings the district <br /> boundaries so easily. While I think Ms. Ford hadn't intended to put Kalapana to be a part <br /> of that district. And I understand what you're saying, Commissioner Bath. I think there <br /> are some challenges of adding another 1,200 other people. Because of the distance <br /> between HPP and Kalapana, it's just adding that many more people. It jumps the number <br /> that much higher. So, I think there's some challenges there. Some of the issue that I had <br /> here, was the boundary between 3 and 2,particularly the more mauka portions above <br /> Kurtistown and Mountain View, up on the slopes there. Because if you're talking about <br /> connectivity, Commissioner Bath, this is one of the issues that I had with one where, <br /> these tracts and blocks are further distanced from Hilo but they only connectivity is <br /> through Council 5 there. So, if you go down along the Volcano Road, the main highway, <br /> that's how they access their property up in there. Let's see, well Stainback actually <br /> connects that way. So, there are some connectivity. I see what Ms. Ford may have done <br /> there. Okay, thank you. <br /> YOSHINA: Chair Kossow? <br /> KOSSOW: Mr. Yoshina. <br /> YOSHINA: If you're going to consider this map seriously, I would like to have some <br /> time to look at the details for downtown Hilo which has been carved out of District 2. <br /> The second concern I have is that kind of an innocuous point here but, the command in <br /> control of Pohakuloa, I think, comes through military headquarters or that command <br /> 11 <br />