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will recall, Mr. Lim indicated, and I hadn’t done this calculation prior to this, but Mr. Lim <br />indicated that actually you can put about 107 lots on the 20, what is that, 30, 37.88 acres. And <br />actually that might be a little tight cause you need room for our infrastructure and all of that, and, <br />you know, also as I understand there are gulches that traverse that property. So the entire area is <br />not flat and buildable, yeah. And, indeed, from, so for argument’s sake we’re to say that oh, with <br />an RS-15 zoning you could have done a 100 lots, then it was downsized by 50 percent to limit it <br />to 50, arbitrarily. Okay? But even at that 50, to be perfectly honest with you, times have <br />changed; and I’m not inclined to say go ahead and stay with the RS-15 and 50. I’m more <br />inclined to negotiate to some lower density. Unfortunately, you know, whatever density we <br />negotiate to, it won’t be reflected by the actual zoning. But we have other methods of <br />controlling the amount of density. Some of the conditions have already been agreed to, such as <br />no second homes on the property, additional shoreline setbacks, public access which the public <br />could actually gain. So I see it as a way for the public to win to some degree. Yes, the vistas in <br />this area might be affected to some degree. How much frontage is that as a percentage of the <br />entire length of Akoni Pule Highway all the way out to Kohala? Very small, I think. And so <br />why would I, in my view, why would I make a stand and affect private individual’s rights when I <br />have much more land to preserve vistas with. That’s my point. <br />GRAHAM: Thank you. <br />WATANABE: Mr. Rho, you have something to add? I know you -. <br />RHO: He was holding -. <br />WATANABE: Oh, okay. Mr. Domingo. <br />DOMINGO: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You know, this really is a serious matter. And <br />having been on the County Council for 20 years, and probably 18 of those 20 years I was the <br />Planning Committee Chairman, if my memory serves me right, I have never even been able to <br />entertain a motion to downzone; and if I had, I guess my senior moments preclude me from <br />recalling if I did. But, you know, I can’t recall having done that. You know, it has often been <br />said that the General Plan is a bible of the whole planning process in our County. Everything we <br />do hinges upon what is written in the General Plan and what is described in the General Plan. <br />Okay? <br />The decision made by the Council at this time -- and I wasn’t on the Council at this time when <br />this was considered, I think it was considered shortly after I retired -- you know, the decisions <br />made were based on what the General Plan permitted uses were for this particular parcel. It was <br />done in that manner. And within the Zoning Ordinance you’ll find that, you know, there <br />certainly may have been some strong considerations about the development of this area. <br />Therefore, they initiated and conditioned upon the developer to address some of the concerns, <br />you know. Having done that, the measure was adopted and passed and became law. Now, you <br />know, I think as we make these kinds of decisions, you know, even each and every one of us as <br />Commissioners, the decisions we make has a very lasting and a serious impact on the lives who <br />owns those properties. And I refer mostly more specifically to the young individuals or couples <br />or parents, more so than with developers. But this principle also applies to developers as well <br />EXHIBIT C <br />18 <br /> <br />