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IWASHITA: I guess, I’ll just make a comment. And that is, you know, based on what <br />Mr. Hayashi presented it sounds like that’s right to him, I didn’t really know. But the fees that <br />are charged by the Water Department, we have infrastructure problems, not only with our roads, <br />but with water, right, water facilities. And it seems like, you know, if we allow developers to <br />come in and we place these conditions and the payments, I guess Mr. Lim says most times they <br />don’t get paid. You know, the developers are speculators basically. And people come in and get <br />the entitlement, don’t make the payment, right, and sell the property at the enhanced value based <br />on the zoning change and, you know, we end up with just one water commitment instead of in <br />this case had Mr. Kodama paid the fee as he should have, period, right, the Water Department <br />would have had that fee. You know, and if he never did the development within the appropriate <br />time period, the Water Department would be entitled to collect another fee. But that money I’m <br />sure the Water Department can use to enhance our infrastructure. And if those fee aren’t being <br />paid as a matter of course, I think that’s something we need to address, because that’s money that <br />the County is by law entitled to receive and is not receiving. And then we’re just saying no, <br />never mind, we’ll just forget about it, and we don’t need that money. But, as a matter of fact, <br />we’re saying we don’t need that money to develop the infrastructure; and I think obviously we <br />do. So to me, yes, this is one matter. And Mr. Lim is, I guess the way the fees are usually <br />assessed I suppose it does provide some problems. But, you know, that’s for the applicant to <br />deal with and that’s for the applicant -. The developers need to know that as part of their due <br />diligence in buying these property that they need to make sure these payments are made; if not, <br />they’re going to be asked to make the payment. Somebody has got to make the payment; and I <br />don’t think we really should ignore it, you know. Because in the end we’re talking about, in <br />mind, I guess if Mr. Lim is correct and these conditions aren’t met as a regular course, to me, it’s <br />thousands and thousands of dollars that the Water Department can use to develop our <br />infrastructure. So that’s my comment. <br />I move to add another condition that would require the applicant to work with the Water <br />Department and come to an agreement on what the fee that Mr. Kodama should have paid was <br />and to make that payment as an additional condition. <br />GRAHAM: Do we have a second to that motion? I think the motion dies for lack of a <br />second. Commissioner Siracusa? <br />SIRACUSA: Yes. I don’t understand why you think that this is for us to deal with <br />rather than something that’s between the Water Department and Mr. Kodama. Mr. Kodama got <br />a lot of money from selling this parcel and it was his commitment. <br />IWASHITA: And none of it went to the Water Department. <br />SIRACUSA: And to me -. <br />IWASHITA: You know, the Water -. <br />GRAHAM: Let’s talk one at a time. <br /> EXHIBIT A 12 <br /> <br />