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this spot so you guys have to park on the road, no one can drive out there, you can’t camp the <br />same way you used to do it. And so the guys that were used to it, I was one of those guys, it was <br />a shock, it was. You know, we weren’t happy about it. We were kind of pissed off about it. <br />Then that, and it started happening. They put the barricades, we had to park on the roads and <br />what not. Well, you know, the County came through and actually improved it, put the sidewalks <br />in, put the pavilions in, parking area and what not. And I go back there later -- you know, went <br />to the mainland for a little while, experienced that, a little different type of life -- went back there <br />and said, this is awesome, this is great, love it. And so it’s just, it’s a real challenge because, you <br />know, you’re from both sides of it. I drive by there, it doesn’t look as, Reeds Bay doesn’t look <br />as attractive to me as it may to the folks that use it. If it looked more like that, it may be more <br />attractive to me. So it’s challenging when you’re one of those local guys sitting in that spot and <br />saying, you know what, we like it like this, this is, this is how it is. That’s how it was for me at <br />Pohoiki. I go back there now, I’m very happy the way that it has changed to now. It’s better for <br />my family. My wife and daughter can go down there, safe. Goes really good. <br />PUBLIC: Twenty-four boat launching though -. <br />KERN: I know, there -. Nothing’s perfect. I’m just, you know, a little slight metaphor, what I <br />experience now. Some things you see from one side and a little later it actually is a decent thing. <br />But there needs to be, you know, compromise and everything else made. But part of that isn’t <br />our issue. But thank you anyways. I appreciate it. <br />WOODWARD: All right. Thank you, Gentlemen.You may be seated. Do we have a motion? <br />MACQUISTON: Can we entertain any more comments in regards to his deposition? <br />MASUNAGA: No, no. <br />WOODWARD: No, sir. No, sir. <br />REES: If they make comments that are not intended to be false but inaccurate under oath, would <br />you like to have a clarification on the actual law on the exceptional tree status? <br />KOMATA: By law there’s supposed to -. <br />MACQUISTON: (…inaudible). <br />REES: There are two ways by which that happens. <br />WOODWARD: No, the way this is -. No, we don’t really turn this into a debate. <br />REES: Okay. <br />WOODWARD: Do we have -? Any of the Commissioners would like to make a motion in this <br />regard? Okay, Commissioner Iwashita, did you have something to say? <br /> 28 <br /> EXHIBIT C <br /> <br />