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HOUSEL: Do you feel that there is an impasse that you can’t get beyond? <br />MOORE: We were very close, and I think there could be a resolution. <br />HOUSEL: So you would be willing to negotiate, continue negotiating? <br />MOORE: Oh, yes. <br />WATANABE: Thank you. Actually I see Mr. Walter just got back from his meeting. So <br />maybe you can be seated, Mr. Fuke, because he did, Mr. Walter did sign up to testify. And so if <br />you still care to provide testimony, this would be your opportunity. Let me swear you in. Do <br />you swear or affirm to tell the truth now before the Planning Commission? <br />WALTER: I do. <br />WATANABE: Yes; and then, of course, name and address. <br />WALTER: My name is Bill Walter. I live in Keaau, Hawaii. Please excuse me. I, we <br />believe that negotiations were near enough to resolution; and we found out at 8:30 this morning <br />that the other party didn’t wish to complete negotiations at this time. Otherwise I could have <br />scheduled and been here; but I had another meeting that had been previously scheduled, so I <br />apologize for that. And I come in, and I probably will be a little bit redundant. <br />But let me say that our concerns are, there are two concerns essentially.The first has to do with <br />a safety concern. I’m sure Mike has covered that and possibly Sid. The roads are not, in our <br />opinion, adequate for an ML zoning. An ML zoning requires, the Code calls for 60-foot wide <br />right-of-ways of which 40 feet are paved. The road today is 20 feet paved, has a 40-foot right- <br />of-way. It would be very difficult to pave that entire 40 feet. We haven’t measured it but you <br />come right up, I think you will go beyond fences on either side if you tried to do that. But it <br />would be difficult to provide that. So if you give a zoning that’s wide open, and following that <br />the park, which his request was ML-1, gets filled out, you then have a lot of potential industrial <br />uses that will be using that road. And we just have, we hold the liability on that; and we feel <br />more than liability, we feel a responsibility because we own that road. So we feel that the road is <br />not adequate. County Code seems to validate that. <br />Our secondary concern is that we have about 5,000 acres of agricultural uses below that area. <br />Agricultural theft is a very major problem. We have spent tremendous monies in 2008 adding <br />gates, keeping them locked, and so on, to try to keep ag theft under control. It is not under <br />control. The more people we draw into this area the greater the risk, the greater the problem that <br />we anticipate for agricultural theft. And that’s our concern. So we worked through this <br />agreement; and it’s all tied together. So, you know, whatever uses, part of it, if I can go into it <br />legally, you know the uses and the improvements were tied together. If you give the zoning, <br />then that breaks that tie, at which point my own opinion would be that, that point, County <br />requirements for appropriate access will come into play. <br />WATANABE: Mr. Woodward. <br /> EXHIBIT A <br />14 <br /> <br />
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