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there was no farming or agriculture, you know, whatsoever, going on this property till Greg and Michael took over the property. So that’s what we are trying to replace right now is the native Hawaiian plants, and productive citrus trees, coffee and things of that nature. We blow the driveway off a lot, and weedwhack a lot and just take care of what we need to do. But as far as neighbors, there is not much noise whatsoever. GRAHAM: Thank you. Any other questions? You folks can go back. Thank you for your testimony today. And I have two more signed up for testimony: Curtis Ludwig and Marianne George. Could you come forth? Thank you. And could you raise your right hand while I swear you in? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth today before the Hawaii County Planning Commission on this matter? TESTIFIERS: Yes. GRAHAM: Thank you. Curtis, we can start with you. And if you would as before just say your name for the record and your address, and then go ahead with your testimony. LUDWIG: My name is Curtis Ludwig, and my address is P. O. Box 1703, Kealakekua, Hawaii. I’d just like to say I’ve lived in the immediate area, Captain Cook area, for going on nine years now, and was born and raised on the Big Island. And meeting with these gentlemen and seeing their potential and what they’ve done with the property, I think it’s a real asset to our community. And the goals and ideas that they have to share with community, as well as guests that they look at bringing into the Big Island, I think it’s a real asset for us here. GRAHAM: Thank you. Do we have any questions from the Commissioners? All right. Ms. George, could you give us your testimony now, start with your name and address, please? GEORGE: My name is Marianne George. I live on 82-5778B Napoopoo Road, just makai of the -, mauka of the Coffee Mill, makai of this property. And I’m a doctor of cultural anthropology. I write. I work on cultural education programs including helping with the Aunty Margaret Machado Lomi Lomi School and their related programs. I am involved in agriculture on the property that I live on. And as I observe the transformation that has occurred on the property that Greg and Michael have been working on, it’s remarkable how quickly they have made that place viable agriculturally and an asset to the community, the way it looks. And the thing I want to say about them is that they make -. I mean I’ve only lived here fifteen years, but everything that I’ve seen and the people I know in the neighborhood, Greg and Michael get along with people; they make an effort to make things work for everybody as a win-win-win for everybody. They are not complainers. They are not going down negative dead-end paths. And I think that should be understood clearly about them. I can say that about them. Thank you. GRAHAM: Thank you. Do you have any questions from the Commissioners? All right. Thank you both. And I have one more testifier today signed in: Cynthia Northrop. Could you come forward, please? Could you raise your right hand? And I’m going to swear you in. Do you affirm to tell the truth today on this matter before the Hawaii County Planning Commission? NORTHROP: Yes, I do. EXHIBIT A 4