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HARRIS:I think that might be smart because when they find plants. <br />YUEN:Thats right we could-. <br />HARRIS:You know we might find a halapepe thats outside. <br />YUEN:Right, we could add halapepe to that list in that KK. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Springer? You okay with that? <br />SPRINGER:Yeah, thank you. <br />ALAMEDA:Very good, youre welcome. Other Commissioners? Commissioner <br />Graham? <br />GRAHAM:Excuse me for talking so much, or asking so much. Mr. Giacometti <br />maybeyoucouldhelpmewiththisone.IknowwhenNormanwasfirsttalkingtousaboutthe <br />project he mentioned that we had received a letter from the education folks. As I was looking <br />through the Land Use Commission findings and all that and as I was looking through the EIS and <br />you had a memorandum of understanding with the education folks. Somehow what I see is that <br />your collaberation with them and building this whole University Center is a key part of what <br />youre doing and certainly a very valuable part to us and feeling like thats one of the real values <br />you bring to it. But I am, I am struck by the fact that I dont see anywhere that you know that the <br />Chancellor or somebody says you know were paying $200,000 a month to rent facilities now so <br />wed like to have an alternative and we like this site as a place to move it and all. I just dont see <br />that anywhere. I just keep hearing well I have no reason to disbelieve that the University <br />wouldnt be happy with this but Id hate to see us go 10 or 15 years down the road and nothing <br />happens and we kind of find out well the University really had other plans and the Chancellor of <br />Hilo didnt want to have a facility over here. Whatevers going on, I dont know Im just <br />surprised by the absence of anything that really makes me know that the Universitys on board <br />and wants to move and rent facilities when you make them available and all that. So just, could <br />you explain that to me? <br />GIACOMETTI:Sure, Ill be happy to try. At the start of planning for this project we <br />recognized the relationship as a neighbor of the 500-acre University site. We contacted the <br />University, talked with the Capital Improvements people, ultimately started to look carefully at <br />how our project could work to resolve some of the problems that the University was facing. The <br />main one being lack of infrastructure. Their site has no access, no water, no wastewater <br />treatment or any utility connections and for them to, for the University to build anything on that <br />500-acres would require some off site work of substance. In fact it was enough so that earlier in <br />the 1990s when plans were started for construction or development on the site they were stalled <br />because there was no public funds available. Hiluhilu Developments property includes 2 water <br />wells at the Mamalahoa level right below the highway you can see one of the tanks And those <br />are water wells that are being planned for dedication to the public system. And theres a water <br />agreement in place with the Department of Water Supply and Hiluhilu and another developer to <br />bring water from those tanks or those wells and tanks downhill to the Queen Kaahumanu <br />EXHIBIT H <br />14 <br /> <br />