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<br />When you drive in, Director Mansour said, you must have enough space to be able to turn the <br />vehicle. So thats just like when you drive on the roadway and make a right turn, thats what we <br />call it, the return radius. If you have a sharp return or a small return, youre going to get in a car <br />accident or you are not going to be able to turn. So, everybody has rules, standards, that we <br />have to call. <br /> <br />Did we use the Hawaii Department of Transportation guidelines, Commissioner Robinson <br />asked. Yes, and roadway and street radii return rate guidelines, Director Mansour said. <br /> <br />6 <br />Commissioner Robinson asked if Commissioners could see the report. (See link in the footnote <br />below). <br /> <br />Commissioner McIntosh said the comments he made during the last time still stand. He <br />understood some of the reasons why they insisted on keeping some of the wording, because <br />instead of backing up, they want you to just kind of turn in. And that would be a lot more <br />difficult in some areas. The main problem is that they dont want trailers to back in, so thats <br />making it very difficult. Theyre going to pass what they want to pass. <br /> <br />Commissioner Burns said as someone who uses boats on trailers often, he cannot see the logic <br />in not reversing, because if youre driving straight in, youre reversing out. And so the <br />individuals are going to have to reverse and navigate and move the trailer one way or another. <br />He does not understand necessarily why or how youre going to avoid issues with people not <br />being able to operate a trailer well, by having them pull in directly and then reverse out, versus <br />reverse in and pull out. <br /> <br />Director Mansour agreed that you have qualified people and not qualified people, and DEM is <br />not in the business of trying to isolate who could drive in a huge trailer. There are a few that <br />could come in like a champion, and you have you the other 80 percent of the people that use <br />trailers. They put a trailer on an actual car rather than a truck or SUV. So we as a Department <br />cannot ignore that. He understands there are a few that could come in with no problem. <br /> <br />Commissioner Burns said that is completely reasonable. He sees more the rationale for just not <br />having trailers than allowing them be unable to reverse because if they pull in straight, theyre <br />going to reverse. Theyre going to have to reverse it out. <br /> <br />Director Mansour clarified it was more about having trailers pulling through than driving <br />straight in. <br /> <br /> <br />6 <br /> Report of the Safety and Risk Management Team dated March 29, 2021: <br />http://records.hawaiicounty.gov/weblink/DocView.aspx?dbid=0&id=1015524 <br /> <br />13 <br /> <br /> <br />
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