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stations or dump sites 50 years ago. So, we continue to just reuse that same land over and over <br />again for this purpose, and it hasnt kept up with population or anything else. <br /> <br />Chair Adams moved to close the conversation because she was not hearing a consensus on any <br />comments that the Commission would provide to the Department at this time. If <br />commissioners have comments during the public comment period, you may submit them as <br />your own. And we can consider this again at our January meeting, but we will be up against the <br />deadline. There was quite a vociferous conversation at the Council around this, and as the <br />Director and Corporation Counsel kept repeating, safety is No. 1. We cannot knowingly cause <br />the potential for harm by unsafe, 50-year-old, hardly designed at all, locations. Yes, we need to <br />improve the transfer stations in many ways. But guess what? That takes money. <br /> <br />iii. Discussion of innovative funding for wastewater management <br />Chair Adams said wastewaters money needs are much larger than for solid waste. There was a <br />7 <br />resolution from the Council to the Hawaii State Association of Counties to request including as <br />a priority a look at innovative funding for wastewater because weve all got that problem. <br />Everybody in the United States has that problem, and probably the world. If we have any great <br />ideas that the Commission can further provide to the Department and the Council, let us know <br />and we can talk about it. We have already sent three different letters that among other things <br />have supported going for an enterprise fund and looking at energy savings performance <br />contracting. So there are several things that we have done at a high level, and specific to <br />Kealakehe Wastewater Treatment Plant, looking at resource management rather than waste <br />management recycling. But they have been at a high level. And if there are some specific things <br />that we should be looking at, speak up. <br /> <br />Vice Chair Gaffney said he has not seen any response from the Council regarding those <br />recommendations, particularly the enterprise fund. It just seems so obvious and opportune. <br />And yet it seems like one of the many recommendations that we forward up that nothing ever <br />happens. Does anybody know whether anything has been done to pursue that issue? <br /> <br />Director Mansour said he has not heard of anything new, and he asked if commissioners could <br />follow up to find out what is the status. <br /> <br />Chair Adams said she and the Vice Chair could include that in their discussions with Council <br />Members Tim Richards and Holeka Inaba. <br /> <br />Vice Chair Gaffney said that is one of the reasons he was so enthusiastic about it being able to <br />have those meetings, because he regularly requests things of the Council and then never get <br />any response. And if our ideas arent being pursued, then were wasting a lot of our time. <br /> <br />Chair Adams said she has heard mention of the enterprise fund concept at Council discussions <br />in passing. Council Member Rebecca Villegas has commented on it, but she does not know that <br /> <br />7 <br /> Resolution No. 239-21, Draft 2, adopted October 20, 2021. <br />15 <br /> <br /> <br />