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Counsel so we can start focusing on the avenues we need to take. Otherwise, if we change <br />avenues and come back later and find out we cannot do it legally, it will be a waste of effort. <br /> <br />Chair Adams noted that Director Mansour had already checked with Corporation Counsel to <br />some extent. Was it a formal request? We should make a formal request to have Corporation <br />Counsel tell us what the options are legally for collecting monies directed toward solid waste. <br /> <br />DCC Wong said that can be a request that Director Mansour could make to his designated <br />Deputy Corporation Counsel, in conjunction with someone from Finance, to work in <br />collaboration on exploring those avenues or what options would be out there. But that would <br />that be more appropriate for DEMs deputy corporation counsel to explore. <br /> <br />Director Mansour said we could follow up with the request, and the Commission could make a <br />request as well. We could make a request. Finance took the lead on it, but he doesnt know if it <br />really went anywhere. So, we will follow up with Finance Department also to find out. <br /> <br />aƚƷźƚƓ ğƓķ ƭĻĭƚƓķʹ Commissioner Olson made a motion, to which Vice Chair Gaffney <br />seconded, to have the Director explore the legal options of collecting for solid waste beyond <br />the current methodology. <br /> <br />5źƭĭǒƭƭźƚƓʹ Director Mansour encouraged commissioners to use their own Counsel in advising <br />the Department. You could make a request to your counsel, separate from the Departments <br />counsel, and you can come back with advice to the Department and the County. <br /> <br />DCC Wong said it might be more appropriate for the Department to explore. Because the <br />Commission is advising the Department, this discussion is sufficient to direct the Director to <br />pursue that avenue. She did not know that this body would need to make a formal request in <br />writing to accomplish that. <br /> <br />Commissioner Cardwell said that it is our role to advise the Department, but if we are unclear <br />about the legal avenues of collecting fees, then we cant really advise the Department on that. <br />So it seems like its a bit of a puzzle figuring out what are the avenues that are available to <br />collecting these fees, because she does think the PAYT program is brilliant. And yes, there is a <br />fee, but people would be paying this fee and they would be getting a huge thing in return, <br />which is not having to wait in line at the transfer station to dump their garbage. And its almost <br />this issue of breaking a bad habit. We are in this bad habit where weve gotten used to not <br />having to pay to dispose of our trash. But that comes at a huge cost, and the cost being there is <br />trash all over the roadside. Driving from Kalapana to Hilo, there is trash everywhere, so there is <br />a huge benefit to this program. But if we do not know the legal avenues to collecting these fees, <br />then there is nothing we can advise the department. So we have to figure out, what are those <br />avenues? How do we start a program like this? How do we start collecting money so that we <br />can implement something like this that is going to be a lot more effective, and a lot more <br />efficient? <br /> <br />6 <br /> <br /> <br />