2022-01-07 EMC special meeting draft minutes

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HENDERSON: The comparison, Mansour, was to a laundry facility located within a single-family residence and a laundry facility located outside of the single family residence. Does that have a disproportionate share of wastewater loading, given the same water consumption? MANSOUR: If it's the same water consumption, it's the same (unintelligible). But you have two different laundries and potentially the probability you can have two different uses. So the water consumption, unless, like, say that thing one of the commissioners asked about the water consumption (unintelligible). So I don't have access to your water consumption. But this has been looked at as a connection to the sewer. When you have two Ys, two connections, that is going to be two possible (unintelligible) to the sewer. HENDERSON: Well, as a correction, there's only one Y. There's not two Ys. Director Mansour, in your testimony, you stated that you were familiar with the term unoccupied unit. Section 21-2, the definition of unoccupied unit ends with the wording and currently receives a water bill. Do you know if that unoccupied unit receives a water bill from the Department of Water Supply? MANSOUR: It receives a water bill through your property. I'm sure when you turn the faucet on, you have water, correct? So that water is being billed through the Water Department. So that unit receives water unless it receives a water bill. If it's (unintelligible) the resident still receives the water bill. Otherwise you won't have water to the plumbing fixtures. So common sense, you turn the water on, you got water out. Somebody is going to pay for the water, automatically you are getting a water bill. HENDERSON: If there was no water bill for the residence at 75-5944 Ali‘i Drive, Kailua-Kona, would you change your decision regarding the charging of the tank house a separate sewer user fee? MANSOUR: As I stated in my prior letter to you, Mr. Henderson, the code is very clear about having plumbing fixtures. We ask, if you don't want to be billed, for us to change our mind, these fixtures in the detached structures need to be disconnected to qualify it, especially when you have a toilet. That’s black water. That's going to the sewer. It needs to be disconnected to qualify for us to change our (unintelligible). HENDERSON: Director Mansour, in your direct testimony, you said that the subject property receives a water bill as shown by the bills included. There was no water bill in the exhibits accompanying your testimony. Only wastewater bills. Was this because there is no water bill for the property located at 75-5944 Ali‘i Drive, Kailua-Kona? MANSOUR: The water bills are issued by a different department. 12